the answer u all chose or whould have chose is all wrong,the right answer is for the sr.rate is boatswain mate follwed by carpenders mate and the then gunners mate. sorry but all don't understand the difference between rank,rate and pay grade. but to keep it to question,here we go again and may be this will help.if 2 people joined the navy at the same time and both were advanced to e-4 [ pay grade ] on the same day.1 was advanced to boatswain mate 3rd class and the other to gunners mate 3rd class.[boatswain mate and gunners mate are rates not pay grades] which of the 2 are senior?????
2007-05-17 11:24:42 · 3 answers · asked by usnavy 1 in Politics & Government ➔ Military
lets us all look to days of old!
2007-05-18 14:53:25 · update #1
since this question is going to a vote as nobody got the correct answer,then so be it. there are alot of rates in both the us navy and coast guard but there are only 1 rate [ not pay grade/rank ]is the correct answer.may be this will help.[ if all of the line officers were to be killed or died rate would assume the resposibles of operations,not comand. wisk you all luck.
2007-05-19 11:57:57 · update #2
that is if that rate is onboard,then it would go to the next sr.rate onboard.
2007-05-19 12:00:24 · update #3
depends. is one an LPO or in some other position of authority(over the other)?
besides..senority is not as factor amongst equal pay grades in the enlisted side of the house. Senority among equal pay grades only comes into play in the Officer Communities.
2007-05-17 11:45:29 · answer #1 · answered by Mrsjvb 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I missed the other question you are referencing but I too see that most dont know the Difference between your rate (job) rank (just that, rank) and Paygrade (which for the mostpart corresponds to rank)
In your situation both are 3rd Class Petty Officers (PO3 in Navyspeak) of the same rank and PO3's are both E-4 paygrades.
They will be referred to by their rate AND rank will be referred to as a BM3 and a GM3 respectively.
I don't think one would be senior to the other as they are both in different divisions (and depending on the ships internal oginization, different departments as well)
A BM would be in Deck Division under the Operations Department whereas the GM would be in another Division under either Operations or Combat Departments. (Some smaller ships dont have a Combat Department and everyone falls under Operations. Larger more combat Oriented ships will have seperate Departments)
At their level in the Chain of Command they are not in the same chain. therfore neither would be senior to the other. moot question I think
But if for some reason you did have them in the same division. it would depend on their Position, not rank.
In my small division aboard Halsey we had an EWC, 2 EW1's, 2 EW2's and EWSN and an EWSA
only one of the EW1's was the LPO. (Leading Petty Officer) and he was senior to the other EW1. What made him Senior I am not sure as they were both promoted about the same time. Maybe it was the date of his promotion. His score was high on the advancement test, or some other such. Not sure however.
Though I am sure Sr. Chief "Boats" will put this Seaman Twidget in his place
2007-05-17 13:17:53 · answer #2 · answered by CG-23 Sailor 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Huh? Did I miss the train?
2007-05-17 11:27:39 · answer #3 · answered by furrryyy 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋