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to beleive in god,other than SHOW them god?

2007-05-12 22:19:29 · 62 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

no one comes to the father unless by me-john 14:6

why I beleive
1.The theological reason-every effect must have an adequate cause.
2.The Ontological reason-There is an inituitive desire after god among all nations and tribes.
3.The Experimental reason-Gods presence is felt and realised by millions of people.
4.The Apocalyptic reson-God has revealed himself in his word,his works and his ways.
gen1.1,heb1.1,Ps14.1;53.1

2007-05-13 00:02:08 · update #1

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Faith in God is purely at the willingness or otherwise of people to honestly weigh the arguments. Even Jesus was rejected by peolple who heard Him, and not just the religious authorities either: Pilate and Herod both rejected Him, as did the majority of Jews of His day, even to the present. But the days are coming when the remnant of the Jews will accept Him as Messiah (see Zechariah), and Isaiah spoke of Him in Is. 52:13-53:12, and Daniel referred to Him in Dan. 9:26.
But no one is lost without it being their own choice.

2007-05-13 21:39:01 · answer #1 · answered by Already Saved 4 · 0 0

There's nothing you can do unless he loses confidence in his own conclusions and belief in scientific and rational thought. For him, that which cannot be answered readily by science and logic is simply unexplained and cannot have a divine answer until all other plausible answers have been excluded, including those he nor anyone else never thinks of, so that excludes the divine.

Perhaps the best arguments you might be able to make is to contend the order of the world must be divine, though he might say out of chaos comes order, and that something cannot have come from nothing, so there must be a beginning. That's an Aquinas', etc., argument known as efficient cause. It doesn't prove god, but you might be able to reason that the alternative beginning of the Big Bang theory should not have enabled such order, and that only a god could have ensured such development and stability, which might also be an argument which evolution can be seen as backing.

As for myself, I am agnostic.

2007-05-12 22:30:53 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Spirituality is a personal thing and if you believe in God, between the 2 of you.
You cannot be convinced of anything until you are ready to believe.
People think that they need to be fully fledged member of some society or another to be close to God or to pray through this and that saint, Mary, idols - but I don't.
I've grown up exposed to various religions and points of view and went through a phase where I was a full-blown atheist, I cursed the name of God, would really lose my temper and taunted those with some kind of faith or who would even begin to start 'preaching'. I had the same questions: "IF there's a God, then why all the pain & suffering...?" etc.
Then I realised that we have to separate what humans do from what God or the Devil (evil spirits do). Just like a parent cannot always intervene on the child's behalf, so we are given our freedom of choice and whether or not to exercise it for good or for evil. I just think that it would be foolish to rule the existence of a higher power, even Shakespeare once said that between heaven and earth, there are more unexplained mysteries than we can fathom...Even science cannot explain a whole lot of things and I am sceptical of so-called scientific findings as the results can be influenced according to the point you want to prove/result you want to achieve.
I do not want to convince you, as I am just another human being trying to find my own way and I don't ever see myslef joining any group just to worhip a higher being, but I just wanted to share my opinion on this.
Good luck with your search for answers.

2007-05-13 00:03:33 · answer #3 · answered by Snake Eyes 6 · 0 0

I don't think so. You see, my world-view is not faith based. I would require evidence. And there is none.

I have considered all the major 'arguments' for the existence of a creator, from the teleological to Paley's watch, and they all just crumble away under critical consideration.

Whilst science can not explain everything - indeed, that is the whole point of science - we have sufficient understanding of the universe and how it works to realise that the god hypothesis can be rejected on the grounds of parsimony. Everything we see can have a naturalistic explanation.

But finally I would say this; I have read the bible and other 'holy' texts from cover to cover several times. Quite apart from the ludicrous contradictions and absurdities, the god who emerges from the pages is such a capricious, murdering, bloodthirsty evil maniac, that even if there were incontrovertible proof of his existence, I would feel morally obliged to spend my life opposing him!

2007-05-12 22:27:27 · answer #4 · answered by Avondrow 7 · 5 0

I like to think that, on the whole, those of us who have decided we are atheists have given the matter a lot of thought, heard all the arguments and made an informed decision. So no- probably not much anyone could say.
Is there anythng an atheist could say to convert someone of 'faith' to the cause of rationalism?
Probably not.
Everybody makes sense of existence in their own way- we may agree or disagree, but trying to convert people seems to me a little disrespectful. Can't we just play nicely?

2007-05-12 22:33:27 · answer #5 · answered by nealo d 5 · 3 0

Why would anyone want to do that. Atheism is a believe, a believe that God doesn't exist.
Why would anyone want to change the believe of another person?
Whatever enabled people to be on Earth, enabled some to be Atheists, some to be Christians, some to be Muslims, some to be Agnostic, why would anyone want to destroy the believe system of someone else.
Only the logic of the Atheists can can convert them to believe in God, some have converted to believers, as many Christians have converted to Atheism. There is some evidence that when the logic of a person is disrupted, such as during mental illness, people can switch alliance during their mental disability.
As an agnostic, I have had many Christians inviting me to become one of them, I can see the logic of their argument, but their logic is not my logic, and the God of the bible reads to me as either a complete idiot, or a dictator. To convert me you would need to convince me that a man made book called the Bible is your gods method of communicating with me, the only evidence is the book says it is the word of god, my logic, which whatever enabled me to live gave me, denies that. The only thing which could convert me to either Atheism, or Christianity, is a breakdown of my mental capacity.

2007-05-12 23:46:36 · answer #6 · answered by DoctressWho 4 · 1 0

It probably depends upon the state of mind of the potential convertee. I know one person who converted but I think this was largely due to a personal trauma in her life and her resulting vulnerability. That said, I can imagine there are a number of death bed conversions as well which I suppose is a time when a person is most suggestable.

In third world countries where people live under the stress of poverty, I have seen a much greater acceptance of a God. Deity beliefs are often fatalistic in their nature which I think, helps give these people courage in their adversity.

So, to answer your question, yes, people can be coverted but its probably easier to achieve when they are stressed or vulnerable.

2007-05-12 22:48:39 · answer #7 · answered by ? 5 · 0 1

No, because if they are a true Atheist then they will be strong in belief, and nothing anyone could say would change their minds, any proof would be dismissed, but then again that is no different to those amongst us that do believe, is there anything that someone could say that to convert a believer to an Atheist?

2007-05-13 00:08:09 · answer #8 · answered by ringo711 6 · 1 0

Honestly? No. An atheist has to find the evidence for themselves. Some of them do, and they convert. I myself am friends with several people who were atheists their whole lives, raised by atheists and agnostics, who became Christians later in life. On the other hand, I also know many atheists who will not be converted no matter WHAT anyone says, because they don't care to be, or because the evidence just isn't enough to convince them. My mother-in-law is one of them. I thought my husband was, too, but now he has no trouble believing in God, though he was an atheist his whole life.

2007-05-12 22:36:24 · answer #9 · answered by The_Cricket: Thinking Pink! 7 · 0 1

No. I'm an Atheist. I don't believe in any God, any religion, ghosts, afterlife, Heaven, etc.,...................... but I know the difference between right and wrong, and I have certain moral standards. I don't need any God for that.

If only the religious people would just shut up about it all, and leave the rest of us alone! Each to his/her own, but one concept doesn't suit everyone

2007-05-12 23:57:09 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

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