There is much evidence from both the Bible and from science that demonstrates God must exist and operate in dimensions of space and time other than those to which we are confined. God could not have created the universe if He were only a part of it. The Bible says the universe cannot contain Him (1).
According to particle physics and relativity, at least ten dimensions of space existed at the creation of the universe (2). Three of these dimensions (plus time) formed the space-time manifold that we can directly observe. The other six of these dimensions exist within the universe as incredibly compact dimensions of space. God must be able to operate in all of those ten dimensions plus more in order to have created the universe. A verse from the book of Hebrews suggests God created the universe out of some of the dimensions of space and time which are not visible to us (3).
The God of the Bible is invisible and cannot be seen except if He reveals Himself to us in a three-dimensional form that we can see. A being which exists in dimensions beyond our three spatial dimensions would be invisible to creatures (us) which can only exist in the confines of our universe (4).
The God of the Bible is described as omnipotent. If God were confined to three dimensions of space and one dimension of time, then He could be in only one place at one time. The God of the Bible is described as knowing all that we do (5). We can hide nothing from God. A three-dimensional God would not have the ability to see through walls (Can you?) and could not know what happens outside of his sight.
2007-05-12 21:38:32
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answered by † H20andspirit 5
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Jesus and Jehovah are separate
It's commendable you are searching. The fact that you were compelled to asked this question shows you had given thought to spiritual matters and concerns. If you think about it though too for a moment, if the trinity were true we should expect to find it clearly defined in the Bible. Something as important as who Jehovah God and who His Spirit-Anointed son Christ Jesus are and are not and their natures and additional what God's Holy Spirit/active force are to be logically clearly stated not ambiguous stated. For example God hates stealing and plainly states it; He is direct on important issues why would he change (Malachi 3:6)
– 1) Christ Jesus is also not the same as the holy spirit (Matthew 12:31, 32; Luke 3:22)
– 2) Jesus was the Anointed one (anointed with Jehovah's holy spirit) andspoke of it as separate.
– 3) Additionally, it is very important too to understand the meaning of context of terms like "God" – (John 10:34-36; Exodus 7:1; Psalm 82:6; 1 Corinthians 8:5, 6). E.g., consider the Bible describes even Satan as "god of this system" (2 Corinthians 4:4; 1 John 5:19) yet we are commanded not to worship him! He is not the True God. Some also worship their bellies (Philippians 3:19). Context is vital!
– 4) These scriptures show Christ Jesus and Jehovah God – (the Almighty) differ in things like: age, history, knowledge, position and power. That contradicts the very definition of doctrine the Trinity itself, it teaches that Jehovah, Jesus and the holy spirit are equal in all of those aspects. Do not get me wrong Christ Jesus is the 2nd most important person in existence. He is unique and reflects his Father better than anyone else – (Colossians 1:15-20; 2:3; Hebrews 1:1-4) However, the point is that they do differ even which respectfully even Trinitarians usually acknowledge when they referring to Christ Jesus as second person of trinity, or “the son” (submissive to his Father). The two natures doctrine with all due respect does not fixed the holes in the trinity doctines. Yes they two Natures as they, Jehovah doesn't – they very notion only adds weighs there are differents. The scriptures in the Bible even after Jesus' death still show his submission & cooperation to His Heavenly Father Jehovah God. The two natures attempted to fix the holes is grasping for straws; even to those to hold to the belief must ask themselves how are they different? Which Scriptures after Christ Jesus was resurrected: (Acts 3:13, 26; 4:24-30; Hebrews 5:5, 8; 1 Corinthians 3:23; 8:6; 11:3; 15:24-28; Galatians 3:20; Ephesians 1:3; Philippians 2:9; 1 Peter 1:21; 1 John 4:12; Revelation 1:1, 2; 3:12, 14)
– Compare scriptures while Christ Jesus was on earth: Matthew 12:18; 20:20-23, 28; 24:36; 26:39; 28:18 (who gave); Mark 1:9-11; 13:32; Luke 2:52; (Luke 18:18, 19*); 22:42, 43; John 1:18; 5:19, 30; 6:38, 57; 7:16; 8:28; 12:49, 50; 14:28; 16:23; Hebrews 5:7. – Scriptures prior to Christ Jesus being on the earth: Deuteronomy 6:4 – Compare: Mark 12:29; Isaiah 48:11
(Deuteronomy 6:4; Isaiah 40:28 (Compare: John 4:6); 48:11; Acts 3:13, 26; 4:24-30; Hebrews 2:10; 5:5-8; 1 Corinthians 3:23; 8:6; 11:3; 15:24-28; Matthew 12:18; 20:20-23, 28; 24:36; 26:39; 28:18 (who gave); Mark 12:29; 13:32; Luke 2:52; 22:42, 43; John 1:18; 5:19, 30; 6:38, 57; 7:16; 8:28; 12:49, 50; 14:28; 16:23; Galatians 3:20; Ephesians 1:3; Philippians 2:9; 1 Peter 1:21; 1 John 4:12; Revelation 1:1, 2; 3:12, 14)
– Christ's brothers (Hebrews 2:10, 11)
– Tempted (James 1:13 compare Hebrews 4:15)
– Two distinct wills (Luke 22:39-42)
– Who Jesus and the Apostle identified him with – (Matthew 16:16, 17)
Jesus is unique (some examples): Colossians 1:15-20; 2:3; Hebrews 1:1-4, Bore our sins (1 Peter 2:24). Christ (Anointed One – Messiah), Exact representation of God's very being (Hebrews 1:13), Image OF God (Colossians 1:15; Compare: Genesis 5:3), Our Lord (1 Peter 3:15), Our meditator BETWEEN God and Mankind. (1 Timothy 2:5) Our model (1 Peter 2:21), Our Shepherd, Chief Shepherd (1 Peter 2:25), the REFLECTION of God's glory (Hebrews 1:13), “The Faithful Witness” (Revelation 1:5), “The firstborn from the dead” (Revelation 1:5), The lamb OF God (John 1:29), "The Lion of the tribe of Judah" (Revelation 5:5), "The root of David" (Revelation), “The Ruler of the kings of the earth" (Revelation 1:5), "The Son OF God", The Amen. (Revelation 3:4). Apostle, Chief agent of Life, Eternal Father, Faithful Witness, Fine Shepherd, Head of the Christian Congregation, High Priest, King, Immanuel, Lamb of God, Last Adam, Leader, Lord, Judge, Mediator (Jesus is the mediator “between” us and Jehovah God) – (1 Timothy 2:5), Prince of Peace, Savior, Son of God (Fun fact: Jesus is called the son of God more 50 times in the Bible, yet never once he called God the Son in the Bible), Son of man, Teacher, The Word (Logos), Wonderful Counselor to name only a few.
Let's ask ourselves about the Trinity are they really share the same history, position, power, role, age, and knowledge? The answer is always and will always be a no.
2016-02-12 11:11:45
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answered by Anonymous
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hi; accually yes there is proof,that Jesus is the direct desendant of God the Father.rember the angel who appeard to Marry,saying that the spirit of God would overshadow her and the child she would concieve,would be called the son of the hightest,also rember when the angel spoke to her husband,he said,for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost well,God himself is a Spirit.here go's
God is a Spirit
we are also Spirit
God has emotions(soul)
we have a soul
Jesus is the human body of God/and as his people are also his bodymembers in particular
we also live in a body/phyical body
we being three are still one and so is God the father and the Son and the Spirit are all three one
then we as the body of Christ,after Jesus died he told his people to wait for the promise of the Father,when he would sent the Spirit of his Son into our heart''s crying abba Father,which took place in acts 2:4---the first scrip are mathew1:20 and luck1:32...take care now pray for the Spirit of God who is the Spirit of truth to open your eyes so you can see this wonderful truth.your precious...God Bless
2007-05-12 22:02:51
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answered by Anonymous
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You stated that Jesus is symbolic. You have just reduced your trinity to a duality. Also by defining the spirit as the 'expression' of god, you are defining it as 'not god'. This leaves us with a single entity.
How could we believe a concept of trinity from your explanation when you so clearly tell us of a single entity? The concept of trinity you describe is simply a literary device. I don't have any difficulty understanding it, but I cannot see how it is in any way meaningful.
2007-05-12 21:46:00
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answered by Dharma Nature 7
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You are proof-texting. Do you know what that means? It means pulling certain passages out of there contexts in an attempt to prove a theory. Very dangerous practice and never leads to a knowledge of the truth. Non-trinitarians can play that game just as well as you can to prove the opposite. So who wins? Jesus revealed to John in a text known as The Apocryphon of John that He and the Holy Spirit were created and not equal to God. He also told us that the god of Moses is not His Father. Do you want to continue to call Jesus a liar?
2007-05-12 21:45:12
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answered by single eye 5
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Believe or understand?
If it's believe, then for me I don't think it's hard cos I know God would never lie.
If it's understand then I think that we weren't meant to understand the Trinity fully because that would make it comprehensible to the human mind. And therefore make the Trinity just another worldly thing.
2007-05-12 22:04:30
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answered by controlfreak 3
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It is no harder to believe man is spirit and flesh and we are one. Man is more than one part and no one wants to argue. Our salvation depends on it. They don't understand god is also more than one part and our salvation depends on it. We are made in the image of God and our salvation depends on it.
2007-05-12 21:50:53
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answered by djmantx 7
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1+1+1=1 First grade math?
2007-05-12 21:38:52
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answered by espms290 4
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there are no real gods, you want to make belief in man made religious fluff, thats up to you, just leave the innocent alone, live life stay free,..
2007-05-12 21:36:17
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answered by a soul 3
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You're using this space to preach, stop it.
2007-05-12 21:38:43
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answered by Fauna 5
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