The REAL question is not whether God exists or not...?

Question

The existence of God is undeniably impossible to prove using objective logic, and so this debate can be settled instantly. Religious people have no actual proof to uphold the existence of their magical sky pixies.

Is the REAL question we should be asking: Why do we believe in God?

to Bandyt:
Apparently, we're both speaking English, but we're not speaking the same language. You're answer is incomprehensible, childish and rather droll. I have reported it as "spam". Have a nice day.

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Excuse me, your. Sorry for the typo.

Answer 1

well we beleive in god for 4 main reasons

1. promise of heaven
2. fear of hell
3. psychological crutch
4. tradition

so i suppose it all boils down to the psychology of an individual. those who beleive might beleive for a combination of the reasons above...but....well each person is different. but those 4 seem to cover a good area.

now i dont know if those are the only 4 reasons but in my debates it seems these are the 4 that stand out the most.

and i came upon them myself. seriously.

i frakin love psychology!

Answer 2

The atheist Bertrand Russell wrote in his book "Why I am Not a Christian" that if it is true that all things need a cause then God must also need a cause. He concluded from this that if God needed a cause then God was not God (and if God is not God then of course there is no God). This was basically a slightly more sophisticated form of the childlike question, "Who made God?" Even a child knows that things do not come from nothing, so if God is a "something" then He must have a cause as well, right?

The question is tricky because it sneaks in the false assumption that God came from somewhere and then asks where that might be. The answer is that the question does not even make sense. It is like asking, "What does blue smell like?" Blue is not in the category of things that have odor, so the question itself is flawed. In the same way, God is not in the category of things that are created, or come into existence, or are caused. God is uncaused and uncreated - He simply exists.

How do we know this? Well, we know that from nothing, nothing comes. So if there was ever a time when there was absolutely nothing in existence then nothing would have ever come to exist. But things do exist. Therefore, since there could never have been absolutely nothing, something had to have always been existing. That ever-existing thing is what we call God.

Answer 3

Actually I agree with you. We cannot prove to an atheist using human (flawed) logic to prove God. The belief does require faith.

Now some have said there is a "God gene" or something like that. But that doesn't make sense from an evolution stand point...because why would something unnecessary have developed through the evolutionary process.

If God was unfounded...then why for thousands of years have people sought and found solace in that belief. Many have died violent deaths but with internal peace that could only be brought about by an understanding of something that has been experienced at another level.

Trying to share an experience that is not human in nature, nor does it require any of the five senses or the brain to analyze...is difficult. You can only share what you know and live what you believe.

I know there is a God...I cannot prove it to someone closed minded because God transcends the mind. The mind is to small of a place. A hardened non-believer stands inside their little 3x3 (mental) room with their eyes closed demanding proof...yet they will not open their eyes and look with their soul to see all the God has to offer.

Answer 4

it truly is a definite or no question, as such you won't be in a position to think of what the questioner's very own perspectives on the situation may be for the reason which you won't be in a position to appreciate who's perspectives they are attracted to. a spiritual individual might desire to make your techniques up directly to appreciate why different persons have faith god exists, or certainly why atheists don't think it, they might pick solutions from an excellent type of persons alongside with people who already proportion their perception, yet perchance for various motives. interior the top, if a question is asked, every person attracted to respond to it would achieve this, it truly is greater thrilling that way:)

Answer 5

No the real question is whether God exists or not, we want to know, our world consist on proof it or its not true and yet some of the things that go on in our lives can not be proofed.
Believing in god has a personal experience to it, because its a feeling of utopia and feelings can't be proofed either.

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We could be like China An Atheist State, well maybe we are by supporting them.

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Most of us have heard of DNA but could not point it out ourselves Yet believe it so because its documented and widely accepted, yet so is God and the bible

Answer 6

Also! on the other hand, the existence of God is impossible not to prove! You are saying that nothing made this world and universe, and all the varied designs among the animals and ocean life just happened to fit together in a haphazard way on this planet? Is that what you are saying? Then I can only surmise that you are sitting on your brains! because you have no logic in your thinking. Have a good day.

Answer 7

As I've said before, nor do you have proof there is no God, and before you get on your "you can't prove a negative" bandwagon, of course you can. Thomas Edison learned science by disproving previous theories. Columbus circumvented the globe to disprove the notion the earth was flat. Clearly there is something greater than us which supercedes our understanding, otherwise we wouldn't struggle with the age old questions about the orgins of the universe. You at the very least, have to admit you don't have a better answer.

Answer 8

OK, so this won't be a popular answer, but it's sort of a variant on the crutch for the weak-minded concept. I notice that a lot of religious-minded people, particularly the born-again variety, have addiction problems. It could be alcohol, drugs, gambling, or all of them. It seems that in order to give up one addiction, another addiction (religion) has to replace it to fulfill some need. Maybe religion is a good thing or a bad thing in this case. I don't know.

Answer 9

8% of the 6.7 Billion people on earth don’t believe in God. That’s about 540 million people +/-.

That leaves more than 6 billion that believe in God. Out of that 6 billion, there are 22 different religions that worship God in one way or another. Some are different than others, but the bulk majority is monotheistic. For every person that does not believe in God, there is 9 more right beside them that do. Can the blind lead the seeing any better than those who see?

Just because 540 million of you have not had any personal religious experience, does that mean that none of the other 6 billion that attest to having had one are lying? I don’t think so. Just because 540 million of you can’t rationally figure out why billions more through out history believed in God, does that mean that you have any right to tell them they are wrong?

At 14, you haven’t had much time to find God, let alone, motivated enough to actually want too dedicate yourself long enough or hard enough to have a valid spiritual experience. Don’t let your mind be poisoned by others, trying to create an illusion that 6 billion people must be wrong when you don’t have hard, scientific evidence that they had a spiritual experience is outrageous. We put people in prison for crimes that one or two have witnessed, and with no other evidence at all, so we hold their testimony as valid truth in a court of law. Yet, those same witnesses can testify to religious experience, and you would all but dismiss their testimony out of had for lack of evidence. But 6 Billion people are evidence. No fair trial of this issue could ever disregard their testimony and claim to have reached the truth; it would be a farce, nothing more than a mockery of justice.

The testimony of more than 6 billion people, in addition to that of your ancestors, as well as mine, for a hundred plus generations, is more evidence for the proof of Gods existence than any reasonable person could need. It is not reasonable to assume that they all are lying.

Atheists refuse to acknowledge that direct testimony of personal experience is valid, meaning that all this is for naught, if they, who refuse to weight the balance, cannot be expected to weigh the full testimony of all of these people in all fairness, how can they expect to tell us the truth?

They can’t.

Answer 10

Junipero sorry to be bearer of bad news, but God can no be proved to exist.

Now don’t be starting the truck up so soon . . . the lack of proof does not prove that God doesn't exist! It simply indicates that we don't know the ultimate truth. Even the greatest of philosophers and logicians cannot prove His existence or non-existence, and probably never will.

Some say that if God really exists, He would make it easy for us to prove it; therefore, we would all know that He exists and we would all pay tribute to Him. But others say that if God exists, He would intentionally make it impossible for us to prove, because He would want us to exercise free will ... only those people that truly feel His spirit should believe in Him.

Regardless what Junipero think . . . you need make up your own mind . . . and let others make up their minds, too. Killing in the name of God is just as bad as killing in the name of atheism . . . for whether there is a God or not, we make our own heaven or hell here on earth, by how we treat our fellow man.

Hey, waiter . . . you got my fries, yet?

Answer 11

I can prove he doesn't exist , just read -

The Religious Piece


Take a quiz , see if you can figure out who I'm talking about - He was born to a virgin mother through the intervention of a holy spirit , that fulfilled an ancient prophecy . When he was born the ruling tyrant wanted to kill him , his parents had to flee to safety . All the male children under the age of two were killed by the ruler as he sought the child , angles and shepards were at his birth . He was worshipped as a savior of men and led a moral and humble life . He performed miracles which included - healing the sick , giving sight to the blind , casting out devils and raising from the dead . He was then put to death on a cross , descended to hell and rose from the dead to ascend back into heaven .

Sounds like Jesus doesn't it , but it's not . That written above is how people described the eastern savior Krishna 1,200 years before jesus is claimed to have been born . If u would like a savior god who died for our sins take a look at history there is a ton of them , all originating right near or on the same place where Jesus is said to have originated . To name a few there is - Buddha Sakia of India , Salivahana of Bermuda , Osiris and Horus of Egypt , Odin of Sandinavia , just to name a few .

Horus for example was the son of god in egypt , so was Jesus . Horus was the light and the world , Jesus it is said was the light of the world . Horus was born in annu the place of bread , Jesus was born in bethlehem the house of bread . Horus was the good shepherd , so was Jesus . Seven fishers board a boat with Jesus , seven people board a boat with Horus . Jesus was the lamb , so was Horus . The birth of Horus was marked with a star , so was Jesus , I could go on and on but I think you see my point .

Here's some bible myths I would like to reveal -

1 - The story of Jesus being a carpenter is a translation error , as the english translation of carpenter comes for the hebrew word naggar by the greek ho tekton . These words do not literally mean a carpenter as the word actually means a master of his craft and applied to teachers and scholars as well as craftsmen .

2 - Jesus was definitely not born in a stable and not a single gospel claims this is true . The christian nativity scene is complete invention . This concept comes from lukes gospel which says Jesus was laid in a manger , an animal feeding box , because there was no room in the inn . but the greek version describes it differently saying there was no place in the room . The truth of this is mangers were in fact used for babies when a cradle was not available but they moved the manger to the baby not the baby to the manger . To continue on about the nativity scene , the truth is , which shocked me to be honest is the fact that it originates with Saint Francis of Assisi of Greccio , in Italy in 1223 ad . He had some local people and their live stock { animals } illustrate the birth of Jesus and this nativity scene quickly caught on . Nativity scenes carved from wood become popular all over Italy at Christmas and the rest my friend is history .

3 - Jesus was surrounded by terrorists { yes u read that right } Simon Magnus was known as Simon Zelotes to acknowledge his role as commander of the Zealots the " freedom fighters " who advocated war against the Romans . The people Jesus was sorrunded by was a terrorist group called the sicarii or sons of the dagger . Sicarii comes from the greek word sica meaning curved dagger . The sicarii in ancient times would raid roman supply caravans and ambush their soldiers very much along the lines of a terrorist group like the IRA was in northern Ireland .

4 - People were not crucified for theft which makes the whole story of the 2 thieves crucified with Jesus just another made up story . It is the same thing that was said about the other " gods " i mentioned above . Historically it is said punishment for stealing would have been stoning to death not crucifixion .

If u don't belive any of the above think about Philio - who is Philio u ask , well Philio lived throughout the times of jesus , he even lived in Jerusalem when Jesus was said to have been crucified and Herod was supposed to have killed the children , he also was there where Jesus was to have made a triumphant return after he rose from the dead . And what does Philo and 40 other writers from this time period say about all this ? Nothing , not a syllable , not a drawing , nothing . Also none of this is mentioned in any of the roman records or from writers from greece , alexandria , jerusalem or anywhere else , nothing . Why ? Because it didn't happen , the interesting part is the Catholic , Christian and every other worker of " god " know about this , yet they won't tell u - I'll let u think about why .