Science refuses to except and even denies that there is a god or any other form of higher being.?

Question

So, my question is "why do scientists believe in religion", "why do Bsc students go to church's and temples ect", "why do people that believe in science, believe in god (of any religion)".

Lastly, if we take the example of Christianity, this requires you to believe solely in god. However, so called believers are happy to receive medical treatment, scientific advice and believe the scientific reports that the world is facing a 'global worming crisis'.

Doesn't this go against the religious beliefs and that you should put your life in god’s hands and let him guide you.

Science claims that the world was created millions of years ago. Yet all of the religions state that god created the world and that it was only created a few thousand years ago.

Answer 1

Science does not refuse to accept nor denies the presence of God... it simply asks for proof which is never forthcoming! In the domain of God it is absolute faith that is governing. As we cannot see the smell of a flower yet feel its presence... we also feel the presence of God Almighty by the minuscule God Almighty vibrating within every living being as our soul atman (residing within our heart).

Science merely does its job... it never contradicts principles of religion or spirituality! In the domain of religion and spirituality... most doctrines and principles do not carry proof! Primarily religion and spirituality are beyond the purview of science. Religion and spirituality start where science ends! Both science... religion and spirituality have different ends to meet!

Religion and spirituality provide much needed food for our soul atman that lives in our heart. To maintain our sanity... the moral and ethical standards of the society... the presence of religion and spirituality is an essential must. In the physical domain... for the body to flourish... for the human being to scale different frontiers of life... presence of science is essential!

Every human being always lives two lives at the same moment. One is the life lived by our soul atman within and the other by the physical manifested body we call human being! Religion and spirituality is meant for our soul atman within... science for the physical manifested body... the human being! Religion and spirituality is diving into the bottomless pit of Wisdom gaining which one becomes a Mahavira, Gautama Buddha, Jesus Christ or prophet Mohammed in life!

Religion and spirituality is related to the cosmic life cycle of 8.4 million manifestations (an earthly abode of 96.4 million years). On the contrary Science helps one live to its full capability and capacity... a span of 70 to 80 years of physical manifested life! Going to a temple, church or a mosque indicates our belief in soul atman and God Almighty. Graduation becomes necessary to earn a livelihood for the family and the self. More on Religion and Spirituality - http://www.godrealized.org/spirituality_and_religion.html

Answer 2

Oi.

Science does no such thing. Science is a process, not an entity with desires and belief systems. Science is a methodology. Methodologies do not deny there is a god, people deny there is a god. Science is a methodology for determining rational answers to the questions of our physical existance. Rational answers include things that are observable, can be reproduced, and includes physical evidence. Any scientist worth his salt would not try to use god in an experiment or theory as this would be contrary to the scientific method. In the mind of a scientist, god may very well exist, but using god in his experiements would be very bad science.

Atheists deny that there is a god due to the findings of scientists.

Some, probably even most, scientists are religious. This is for a million different reasons. One very important one is that being a scientist in a particular field does not give that scientist any authority at all in any other field. A geologist might not know a pancreas from an artichoke and a biologist might not know a diode from a geode. This is why you wouldn't go to a chemical engineer for medical advice. A dentist, for example, might not have any inclination to study evolution or ethology and wouldn't be in any better position than you are to determine the relative validity of religion OR evolution.

Not all believers are happy to receive medical treatment. Earlier this year in Canada there was a case of sextuplets born to Jehovah's Witness parents. There were severe medical problems (as is typical with sextuplets) and the parents would not allow their children to receive blood transfusions. Last I heard, two of the babies had died. As far as I'm concerned that was child abuse.

Not all believers take scientific advice or believe scientific reports of the global warming. You guys don't buy into evolution and many of you think the world is less than 10,000 years old. There was an American Senator who said he didn't care about the environment because good Christians will be raptured before global warming will become a real problem, so the environment didn't matter.

While some scientists can be wrong, it would be completely stupid for anyone regardless of faith, to summarily dismiss all scientific knowledge or pick and choose the science that jives with their political/reigious views.

Answer 3

Science and Christianity (I can't talk for any other religion) don't have to disagree with one another.

Okay, so the world happening by chance completely goes against Genesis chapter 1 but there is no Scientific proof that the world did happen by chance, it is all theory. Science has its theories where there is no seemingly apparent truth. The idea that the world happened by chance is there because there is no concrete evidence that it didn't. It is all faith.

For your question about taking medical advice etc going against religious beliefs, then no, I don't think so. We were given intelligence for a reason and that reason was to use it. No medical treatment can save a life if it isn't God's will. Two people with exactly the same medical problem, undergoing exactly the same treatment, won't necessarily get exactly the same result. We see this every day. And why is that so? Because medicine is a tool that God uses to save lives when a life is to be saved. God still has supreme control over life and death.

Asking that is equivalent to saying, why do Christians bother revising for their exams? If God wants them to pass they will. A lady in my Church once told me a story of a man who prayed every day 'Lord, I really need to win the lottery, please make me win the lottery'. This man never bought a lottery ticket! He couldn't win without a ticket. In the same way, if I ask the Lord to heal me from a disease, I have to do what I can for myself as well (ie go and see a doctor). I can't expect the Lord to do all the work without being willing to do some myself as well. Otherwise faith becomes a crutch.

Answer 4

To be honest I think you are being too technical here. Science does not necessarily state that there is emphatically no god. It is up to individuals to believe to believe whether or not there is a god, per se.
But science and religion are seperate. Science is a science, where religion is a belief. The two can live side by side. I am sure there are many scientists that do indeed belong to organized religion. It probably gives them a sense of well being and a sense of belonging. A lot of people, including scientists are brought up in families that are religious and so they follow what they have been taught. It isn't necessarily the idea of god that keeps them going to church it is just something they have always done and so they continue.
I don't understand why you think believing in Christianity would make you believe in god and make you totally deny science to the point of medicine and global worming, which are basic points of the real world. Just because people believe in god doesn't make them into robots unable to think. I will state here and now that I am an atheist, but do have friends who are religious and I don't see them being anti science and totally involved in letting god rule their lives.

Answer 5

Nonsense. Science has nothing to do with God, because "god" is not a testable event. If it cannot be tested, it is not of interest to science, nor does that mean it is false.
Science is a tool, not a belief system. This constant use of "science" as a means to disprove religion is silly and most scientists find the whole thing offensive and ignorant.
1) science cannot prove or disprove God, therefore God either exists or doesn't, and is not of concern to science.
2) That one cannot prove something does not mean that it does not exist.
3) Beliefs are what you have when you DON'T have proof. They are a person's "guesses" about the things that are NOT testable or repeatable.

Would you really deny a person's choice to decide what they believe about things you can't disprove?

Christianity also does not require you to believe solely in god. That's nonsense.

Christianity went through a reformation, and no longer (with rare exceptions) believes that the Bible is completely and utterly true in all ways. Such cannot be said about Islam, of course, but most other religions have also been through similar transformations in the last few hundred years.

I sometimes wonder if the atheists who frequent Yahoo! (I'm not a Christian, nor even religious) are due for a reformation themselves since they don't seem to have the first clue what science or religion is about.

It's rather silly to see for those of us with scientific backgrounds, trained in formal logic, and who have actually read the texts we talk about (Bible, four times, as well as a number of other holy texts of other religions).

Please make the effort to do some research before you post such garbage, particularly if you indicate to the world your inability to use the language with any facility with such terrible grammar and spelling.

That we can stand, but the combination does you no credit.

Answer 6

You mean accept, not except, and global warming, not worming. Anyway, to put it more accurately, science does not require deities to do what it does, which is to figure out how things really are.

There is no need to 'deny' what is unnecessary, or as Christopher Hitchens said recently,"What can be asserted without evidence [religious beliefs and other superstitions] can also be dismissed without evidence."

Yes, it is very amusing that even the most religious people will head straight for a hospital if they think they need it, proving where their 'faith' really lies. This is a good thing, though: I'd rather not see the return of the kind of faith that led to the Inquisition. It's these kind of dangerous effects of uncritical faith which make reasonable people anti-religious rather than merely non-religious.

Religion and its belief in ridiculously impossible things based on 'authority' (and ancient authority at that) alone has become hopelessly out of step with the real world, and also extremely dangerous in the hands of fanatics.

It is for this reason that I am convinced that the very idea of religion needs to be attacked wherever and whenever possible as the mental virus that it is - believers should be made to feel so ashamed of their bottomless gullibility and lack of intellectual curiosity that they give it up voluntarily, and if not they are to be at least ignored if not ridiculed for their overweening backwardness - the new comical goobers of society.

PS to Mr Oi below me: The great majority of scientists are unbelievers, and atheists don't 'deny' god - they don't *believe* in god (see above about there being nothing to deny). Besides, the concept of deity is so abstruse as to be impossible to define unambiguously in the first place, so talk of whether something you can't even describe exists or not is patently ridiculous anyway - and yet people kill each other over such freaking nonsense!

Answer 7

Science can explain the how, but not the Why. EG electricity can be used because it can be observed that electrons have certain characteristics.

But why they do, who it was or why it was that those characteristics developed, cannot be explained.

Either you think that development is random - but again from what, and how did the first life create (itself?). Or someone, or thing/spirit created it.

with most religions, belief is the basis. good works come as secondary. Believers have to believe - not have God scientifically proved.

Science can explain the how - but there are still anomalies. It has enabled humans to both better themselves and move near to destruction.

Inside a lot of people, I think, is a need to believe in a higher being - that life is not random. Perhaps wishful thinking - science would probably say so.

Answer 8

Science does not deny the existence of god, it says nothing about god one way or the other because if god existed, he would not be a part of the physical world. Some individual scientists do believe in god, but their belief has nothing to do with science- they believe as other people do, because they want to, not because there is any proof that any gods or god exist.
Religious belief is a subjective matter, which is the point of most of the argument on this site. Anyone is free to believe whatever they want, whether there is proof for their belief or not, whether it is rational or not. This is just why occasionally there will be lawsuits against parents who refuse to have their children treated by doctors because of their religious beliefs. So some people do put their lives "in god's hands", unwise as that may if there are other remedies at hand.

Answer 9

Your question contains false information. Science does not disprove that 'God' (whatever that is) exists.
People do riot choose what to believe, people believe what they believe. Irrespective of what job they are doing. Other people may have assisted in the forming of believes, but peoples minds had to be open to those believes in order to accept them.
You state that Christianity requires Christians to believe nothing but God. Where do you get that information from?
I am not a Christian, I am an agnostic, but I have a bible, no where in the bible does it say Christians must abandon all beliefs other than God. That would be to deny there is a national lottery in the UK.

Finally No it doesn't go against religious beliefs. Religious people can tell you exactly why they believe, just as you can say exactly why you believe there is no God.
Atheists will not believe the Christians. The Christians will not believe the Atheists. And this agnostic finds it all very amusing.

Answer 10

Science is a pretty broad field. What you should say is some scientists deny the existence of a god and some scientists do not. Some are deacons of their church. Some scientific theories dispute biblical passages but it’s a long stretch from that to science, as in every field of science from Archeology to zoology, denies the existence of god. There are literally hundreds if not thousands of separate belief systems. Some do believe that all medicine should be rejected and some don't have a television or computer to hear about global warming nor would they care if they did. The bible does not advise you to leave everything to god. Your expected to wipe your own butt for instance as god won't wipe it for you. Your being an extremist.

Answer 11

Science does "except" the idea of deity. Oh, you meant "accept", is that it?

Who told you that science assertively says "there is no God"? Science doesn't try to answer questions like that. That's for the religion and philosophy department. However, another thing science doesn't do is bring the notion of invisible, omnipotent beings into the picture when doing an experiment. Because if you can always make up some complex hypothetical analogy that "The big invisible man did this when you weren't looking", then there's no way to rely on results. And science still works.

Further more, being religious doesn't mean you have to reject science. Galileo said "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use."