We read in Judges 13:18, "And the angel of the LORD said unto him, Why askest thou thus after my name, seeing it is secret?" In the interlinear "secret" means uncomprehensible or wonderful.
"Wonderful" is one of Christ's titles(Isaiah 9:6).
Please note the language in Zechariah 3:2 as compared with Jude 1:9.. "And the LORD said unto Satan, the LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?"
"Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee."
And finally in 1 Thessalonians 4:16 we read, "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first;"
1 Thess 4:16 says expresly that the Lord (Christ) will shout bringing the true believers to heaven and ending the universe
2007-05-11 08:28:42 · 14 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Jesus Christ is Lord of lords, King of kings, Alpha + Omega, the Lamb of God, Jehovah, the Most High, Lord of all, Faithful + True, I AM, God Almighty, Good Shepherd, Lion of the tribe of Judah, Bread of Life, The Branch, etc.
2007-05-12 07:37:00 · update #1
Yes.
Gal 4: 14 (NIV) Instead, you welcomed me as if I were an angel of God, as if I were Christ Jesus himself.
Gal 4:14 (YNG) but as a messenger of God ye did receive me -- as Christ Jesus;
Angel means messager.
ArchAngel just simply means Chef messager.
Jesus called out with a Arch Angel voice while holding his father's trumpet.
1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel,
1 TH 4:16 (YNG) because the Lord himself, in a shout, in the voice of a chief-messenger, and in the trump of God,
2007-05-11 18:46:36 · answer #1 · answered by keiichi 6 · 3⤊ 2⤋
In my quick n fast search; to ansr this Q.
What I found is this.....
Da 12:1 Michael will stand up/ the great prince*.
Da10:13 Michael 1 of the foremost princes/Angel Gabriel resisted, aided by Michael.
Jude 9 Michael & the Devil / May Jah rebuke u.
Re 12:7 Michael and his angels battled / war broke out in heaven.
Da 10:21 Michael the prince* of you ppl.
1Th 4:16 The Lord himself with a commanding call, w/ an archangels voice & with God's trumphet / those in union with Christ will rise 1st.
I found no other references to Michael (yet, it was a quick search), but, from what I see right here just through these Scriptures, Michael and Jesus are the same person.
Da 10:21 Says Michael is the prince of us
*Isa. 9:6 Birth of Prince of Peace;
Jesus is the Prince of us [humans]
And then right there @ 1 Th 4:16;
The Lord, archangels voice, and Christ.
The Lord is Jesus, then it says; Christ.
Christ is the 1 Jehovah sends to fight in Armageddon.
Jesus was put above all creation, including all the angels; after his resurrection. So, then there r no other angels above Jesus.
Jehovah is God and heavenly Father---
Jo 17:3; Jo 20:17; Jo1:1
Jesus the Christ is the Son---Jo 20:31;
1st born of all creation ---Col. 1:15-17; Jo 1:18,
a masterworker along side his Father
before the founding of the world---
Col 1:15-17; Jo 17:5; Jo 8:23
2007-05-11 10:13:52 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 3⤋
This is a pretty weak argument you are making here. You've got a few obscure verses that you have cherry-picked out of context, and you are connecting them through ambiguous definitions you have taken from separate and irrelevant contects of their own. For example, "interlinear" and "wonderful" both have multiple meanings, and you are clearly manipulating their meanings to fit your purpose. In addition to this, the idea that Michael contended with the devil in the prophets is irrelevant to your argument. There is nothing written that says that an archangel cannot rebuke the devil without being Christ. You are making that assumption based on your own desire to believe it so, or to try to create a false contradiction to stir up doubt to some of the more ignorant readers here. Finally, your last example is so open to interpretation that it is baseless and useless. So what if the Lord shouts "with the voice of the archangel?" That can mean many different things. He can use an archangel to shout. He can shout with an archangel-like voice of his own. The whole thing could be symbolic or a metaphor. And either way, Michael the archangel is not even mentioned at all. It is not like he was the only archangel. This is a pretty poor argument. You commit a lot of fallacies of logic here. Better luck next time.
2007-05-11 08:39:46 · answer #3 · answered by Mr. Taco 7 · 2⤊ 4⤋
Not really! Michael does the work of the lord but is not the lord jesus christ himshelf. Jesus is never call michael in scripture. Keep Reading and studying. God Bless
2016-05-20 23:01:55 · answer #4 · answered by chrystal 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Michael is an archangel and Jesus Christ is Lord of Lord's and King of Kings,the Son of God and Immannuel (God with us.) There is no indication in the Holy Bible that Jesus is Michael or Michael is Jesus.
(Jud 1:9) But Michael, the archangel, when contending with the Devil, he argued about the body of Moses, he dared not bring a judgment of blasphemy, but said, Let the Lord rebuke you!
Your own suggested verses clearly show the difference. Great question praise the Lord we need more like this on Yahoo answers.
2007-05-11 08:44:19 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 3⤋
Nope. According to Hebrews 1:5, God never called an angel his Son, as he did Jesus.
According to Hebrews 1:13, God never told any angel to sit at his right hand, but he did Jesus.
According to Hebrews 2:6, he has never put the earth under subjection to any angel, but he has to Jesus.
According to Hebrews 2:16 Jesus has never had the nature of an angel, but the seed of Abraham.
So according to scripture, Jesus never has been an angel, and no angel has become Jesus.
As for the verse in 1 Thess 4, Jesus shouts, but his shout is accompanied by the voice of an angel and the sound of a trumpet. If "with the voice of the archangel" means that Jesus used to be or is an angel, then the "with the trump of God: would have to mean that he was or is a trumpet.
2007-05-11 08:39:37 · answer #6 · answered by dewcoons 7 · 3⤊ 4⤋
No, Michael is the archangel.
Notice in Jude 9, that he says the Lord, and not "I".
The Angel of the Lord in Judges 13 is the Holy Spirit. Notice verse 25, "the Spirit of the Lord".
See the "comforter" in Isaiah 63:9-10...Holy Spirit.
Read the first chapter of Hebrews also, especially verse 4 and 6.
The other Thessalonian verses are just sophistry.
2007-05-11 08:31:46 · answer #7 · answered by great gig in the sky 7 · 2⤊ 3⤋
No. I'm pretty sure you're just reading too much into the passages as the scriptures clearly state Michael and Christ as being two separate beings. With this kind of loose paraphrasing and quoting, I could also argue that Elijah and Christ are the same person if I wanted. There's nothing of substance in your own argument.
2007-05-11 08:31:35 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 4⤋
Absolutely not, you are confusing the creation from the Creator.
" In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,
And the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by Him; and without Him was not anything
Made that was made."
John 1:1-3
These verses clearly explain that Jesus, God the Son, created all things. ( that includes the angels, whether they be archangels or not) This is another false teaching of JWs and the watchtower society.
Grace and Peace.
2007-05-11 09:25:37 · answer #9 · answered by Not perfect, just forgiven 5 · 1⤊ 6⤋
That is not what Jehovah's witnesses believe.
yes, Jesus is the Arch angel or the highest angel and the first creation of Jehovah. But the rest of that?
2007-05-11 09:43:24 · answer #10 · answered by Ruth 6 · 2⤊ 3⤋