To Mormons: If Heavenly Father had a Father and Grandfather, wouldn't they be greater than Heavenly Father?

Question

Sincere question. No bashing. I was told the people to ask were the members and nobody else. I asked other questions regarding the Heavenly Family and the LDS answerers tended to agree with the hypothesis that Heavenly Father indeed had a Father and probably a Grandfather too, although official church doctrine on the subject is fuzzy.

According to some members I have spoken to, there is a teaching called "Eternal Progression" which seems to teach we can become more and more "God like" and that the Heavenly family have all done the live on Earth thing and eventually progressed to a state of exhaltation.

So, is Heavenly Grandpa greater than Heavenly Father. Would this mean that Heavenly Father is not really the "Almighty" and one in the line of Heavenly Patriarchs really is?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Answer 1

are you expecting a straight and lucid answer from a Morman?

Good luck

and god bless---grandpa, grandma, whoever

Answer 2

I am not going to answer the actual question, because I don't speculate on undeclared doctrine. I can assure you that all of your questions will be answered as soon as you can receive the truth, whether in this life or the next. God personally tutors each of His children as far as we will allow Him to, even when we don't realize that He is doing it.

And there is no member of the Church who could give you an answer to this question, unless they were guessing.

However, I will clarify what "eternal progression" means:

For humans, it means that because we are literally children of God, every person on this earth, we have the capability of becoming like our Heavenly Father. This does not mean the guarantee, just the possibility.

For God, it does not mean that He is not yet perfect. (There is no imperfection in Him.) He gains experience through us, His children. He delights in our progress, and mourns when we misuse our right to choose how we will act. Everything that He is, has and does is for us, His children, and for His other creations.

So, in other words, He doesn't just create us then sit on His laurels and watch what we do next. He is deeply concerned about us, and is available to help and teach us when we are humble and willing to change when He teaches us more truth.

Answer 3

Heavenly Grandpa would be considered greater than Heavenly Father however, Heavenly Father is the all powerful of this world, whereas Heavenly Grandpa would be of his world. There are many worlds without end and Heavenly Father is the Almighty of this world.

Answer 4

Greater to whom? Our God's God is greater to Him most likely... but to us, God the Heavenly Father is OUR God and Supreme, there are none above Him to US. There will never be another higher that we worship, I am sure it is the same with our God, there will never be another higher than His God.
It's somewhat deep... just because we cannot fully understand something also, doesn't mean it is not true...
I don't worry about it too much, I know I have a Heavenly Father who loves me, the gospel is true, so really nothing else matters.

That's just my guess though, there is no "real" doctrine on it.

Answer 5

Is your grandfather greater than your father? If you become a father, does that make you greater or your father greater?

When you become a father/mother, does this take away from your parents? Or does it add to their posterity?

Why would anything be any different with our Heavenly Father?

Answer 6

Yes, but that is not of your concern regarding Mormon Doctrine. The Heavenly Father created you, so you must listen to him, not the Heavenly Great Grandfather.

Answer 7

God the Father started it all as far as we teach. Just because a Mormon speculates something doesn't mean Mormons believe or teach it...

That's like saying I once heard a Catholic say that limbo is really a two stage place... Umm... yeah. So what does that have to do with Catholicism? Not much. Neither does "great grandfather", have to do with Mormonism.

Hope that helps...

Answer 8

The church actually implies this, but only goes back one generation. No mention of god the grandfather or god the great grandfather or great great great great great etc.
Or Mother - period.

They also teach that ALL Life will be resurrected, so I'm kinda concerned about Celestial Bird Flu virus or one of those eternal super bacteria. Imagine a heavenly case of diarrhea..

I don't think anyone really thought this out to it's logical conclusion...

Answer 9

I think it's better to avoid wasting time on trivial pursuit and focus on the teachings of the Gospel. There's a good deal of speculation possible, but generally God only reveals things that are directly relevant to us.

John 17:3
3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

As far as who is greatest, consider what Jesus said on the subject:

Mathew 18:1-4
1 At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?
2 And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,
3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

Answer 10

If there was a father of the heavenly father, than yes he would have been mightier and more powerful.

Answer 11

Good thing I'm not morman because that whole thing was just confusing me!

There is only one God who created everything on earth!