We have the technology. Do you think it proper to open the tombs?

Question

Open the biblical-era tombs that is and take DNA samples for comparison to that of the current crop of occupants of the Jewish Entity (Israel) and send those that don't belong there through ancestry (and most don't), home? I expect the world would rejoice at such a logical and fair solution to this never-ending dispute. We have the technology. We have it.

Gratvol neither try to put words in my mouth, neither accuse me of anti-semitism. Now back to this question, please consider this further observation of this Israel situation. Let it be: In the year 1920, during a debate on Palestine in the British House of Lords, and echoing the view of many before and since, Lord Sydenham said: 'I sympathize entirely with the wishes of the Jews to have a national home, but I say this national home must not be given if it cannot be given without entailing gross injustice upon another people. Palestine is not the original home of the Jews. It was acquired by them after conquest, and they have never occupied the whole of it, which they now openly demand. They have no more valid claim to Palestine than the descendants of the ancient Romans have to this country.'

Gravtol you certainly are desperately persistent. Not too open minded, but persistent. And apparent to all, a denier of all and any new holo-facts. Holo-denier? not me. Just get that holo-horror scaled to what it really was. When truth's demonstrated as undeniably absolute, what's to do but believe? Another thing, if questioning the raison d'etre of the Jewish entity, Israel, is anti-semitic, then to your mind the entire thinking world must be that. Get real. Don't blow gaskets at simple questions. It's so unseemly. Oh yes, if the numbers you kind of pray for in your paragraph 4 were to be, then so be it. Send the Palestinians back to their ancestral homes in Mid Asia and Europe. Uh-oh.

Etay, I commend you on your scramble to rebut my simple question/suggestion. I am drowning in scientific fact thanks to your supreme effort. All I can say is, with such fine scientific bases as you've uncovered, let's get on with the real test -- DNA the entire population of Palestine (aka Israel) and let the chips fall where they may. I will bid on the suitcase concession.

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Mimi,
See:
http://tinyurl.com/3aywex

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Khali new fan -- Tis cruel indeed. But so is the ongoing imprisonment (Gaza) and expulsion of the Palestinian people. It does not have to be this way.
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Answer 1

i dont htink that is proper because there have been many peole who converted to judaism and the Torah sais "lo tonu et hager" which means do not torcher the convert the Tora explains that the convert is just like the regular jew in every aspect of his life whether it is in punishment or reward

Answer 2

I was going to give an appropriate answer to your question, but then I realized from reading your other answers your a holocaust denier and an anti-semite as well.

Also I imagine you would not suggest the opposite, the Palestinians who are genetically from Arabia should also go back... I thought so.


Yawn, your multiple answers referring to Jews shows your anti-semtism quite well, I have also yet to hear of a holocaust denier who did not hate Jews.

but to answer your question, If we dug up the tombs and then did a DNA match and it came out that 90% of the Jews in Israel have the semetic DNA that matches those who dug up those tombs and only 20% of Palestinians did dose that mean your willing to move 80% of the Palestinians and only 10% of the Jews?

If your answer is no then your question is not intellectually honest.

Answer 3

Semites, Jews included, did not preserve their dead just the bones. As such, it's doubtful that any DNA can actually be harvested. Even if it was, I don't think it would provide a sufficient base group for comparison. Also, as someone else mentioned, it would completely disregard conversion and as a large percentage of Ashkenazi Jewry is descended from the Khazar conversion, that's significant. This isn't a practical proposal.

Answer 4

Good question, but I don't think openning tombs will ever happen. Everyone knows that many living in Israel are converts to the religion, they live there already and it wouldn't be nice to expel them.

Answer 5

Here's your logical and fair answer:
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/97/12/6769

"Haplotypes constructed from Y-chromosome markers were used to trace the paternal origins of the Jewish Diaspora. A set of 18 biallelic polymorphisms was genotyped in 1,371 males from 29 populations, including 7 Jewish (Ashkenazi, Roman, North African, Kurdish, Near Eastern, Yemenite, and Ethiopian) and 16 non-Jewish groups from similar geographic locations. The Jewish populations were characterized by a diverse set of 13 haplotypes that were also present in non-Jewish populations from Africa, Asia, and Europe. A series of analyses was performed to address whether modern Jewish Y-chromosome diversity derives mainly from a common Middle Eastern source population or from admixture with neighboring non-Jewish populations during and after the Diaspora. Despite their long-term residence in different countries and isolation from one another, most Jewish populations were not significantly different from one another at the genetic level. Admixture estimates suggested low levels of European Y-chromosome gene flow into Ashkenazi and Roman Jewish communities. A multidimensional scaling plot placed six of the seven Jewish populations in a relatively tight cluster that was interspersed with Middle Eastern non-Jewish populations, including Palestinians and Syrians. Pairwise differentiation tests further indicated that these Jewish and Middle Eastern non-Jewish populations were not statistically different. THE RESULTS SUPPORT THE HYPOTHESIS THAT THE PATERNAL GENE POOLS OF JEWISH COMMUNITIES FROM EUROPE, NORTH AFRICA, AND THE MIDDLE EAST DESCENDED FROM A COMMON MIDDLE EASTERN ANCESTRAL POPULATION, AND SUGGEST THAT MOST JEWISH COMMUNITIES HAVE REMAINED RELATIVELY ISOLATED FROM NEIGHBORING NON-JEWISH COMMUNITIES DURING AND AFTER THE DIASPORA.

Answer 6

How do you know we have the technology. Can you provide a link or something? I am not against DNA. Interesting question.

Answer 7

I think it can create chaos and a lot of people get hurt. Just leave it like that.

Answer 8

Dear , i need more explanation to answer your question , and please i want to answer it , so write down some more explanation.
best regards

Answer 9

sure, lets start measuring people's skulls while we are at it.