Pope orders excommunication for abortion supporters - should the church support it?

Question

Most of the media is saying "the churches say life begins at conception". Well, that is the churches. If people actually read the Bible, it specifically states that life begins at the mother actually gives birth to the child - NOT at conception.

So who are you going to believe? The Bible, the Pope, or stick to your own guns?

Answer 1

yeah, that sounds like an enforceable rule.


what are they going to do, take a survey?

Priest: If you support Abortion, please raise your hand and you'll be promplty excommunicated.

[no one raises their hand]

Priest: ok, then...back to my boring-*** sermon.

Answer 2

Where does the Bible state that? I've read the verse..."in the womb I knew you!"

Also: "If men strive, and hurt a women with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life" (Ex.21:22-23).

Also check out: Job 31:15 and Psalms 22:9-10 and Psalms 139:13-16 and Isaiah 44:2 and Isaiah 44:24

There is plenty of biblical backing that abortion is against God...it is murder. Anyone who willfully and purposefully murders, or causes the murder, or even supports the murder of another human being should be excommunicated and should not receive the sacraments!

Answer 3

"Excommunication" is given by the Bishop of the Papal State. The Pope is Bishop of Rome. Yes, the Pope says that abortion is moving us away from God. It is in the Catechism of the Catholic Church:

The Bible tells us that God knew us before we're born Check out: Jer 1:5, Job 10:8, Ps 22: 10-11, Ps 139:15, Drrr --- It's written right there!!! --- Ha-Ha-Ha --- You're out of it major ---- Ha-Haaaa

Answer 4

+ Abortion +

Catholics believe that from the moment of conception until natural death, each human being is endowed by God with dignity and rights.

You shall not kill. (Ex 20:13; cf. Deut 5:17)

Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you. (Jer 1:5; cf. Job 10:8-12; Ps 22:10-11)

My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately wrought in the depths of the earth. (Ps 139:15)

Early Church writings: You shall not kill the embryo by abortion and shall not cause the newborn to perish. (Didache 2, 2: SCh 248, 148; cf. Ep. Barnabae 19, 5: PG 2, 777; Ad Diognetum 5, 6: PG 2, 1173; Tertullian, Apol. 9: PL 1, 319-320)

+ Politicians +

Someone can be a misguided Catholic and “pro-choice.”

This is especially harmful when they are people of influence like politicians, who because of their influence may unduly direct others toward "the culture of death" instead of the "consistent ethic of life."

The Church law involved is Canon 915: Those who are excommunicated or interdicted after the imposition or declaration of the penalty and others who obstinately persist in manifest grave sin are not to be admitted to Holy Communion.

The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops' statement "Catholics in Political Life" says:

Therefore, like every Catholic generation before us, we must be guided by the words of St. Paul, “Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the Body and Blood of the Lord” (1 Cor 11:27).

And continues that it is up to each Bishop in their diocese and on a case by case basis to decide whether or not to deny Holy Communion to Catholic politicians because of their public support of abortion.

Here is the complete document: http://www.usccb.org/bishops/catholicsinpoliticallife.shtml

With love in Christ.

Answer 5

The pope actually isn't excommunicating anyone. That's the job of the bishop of that church, and since they aren't issuing excommunication the pope won't either he just expects them to not participate in the communion.

Answer 6

Partial delivery abortions are in elementary terms used if a woman's well being or existence is at stake. in elementary terms some million p.c. of abortions are executed after 20 weeks. definite I continuously help abortion, against government administration.

Answer 7

The life outside the womb begins
God knew you before you were in the womb
Understand that the teaching of the magistarium of the church in fact is the teachings of Jesus Christ guaranteed by Him through the Holy Spirit

Answer 8

Did you read the part in the Bible where it says "I knew you when you were knit together in your mother's womb"?
Thats sounds like -"before delivery" to me.
I think you may have missed your bus.

Answer 9

If you ACTUALLY read the Bible you would read that the Lord knit YOU in your Mother's womb and he knew YOU before YOU were born. How can he know YOU, if you were not YOU?

Answer 10

I find it interesting that the church never excommunicated a single dictator, a single nazi criminal, a single soldier doing awful war crimes....

Answer 11

How smug and bloody selfish of people such as yourself who were allowed the gift of life but deny it to others, birthing and the moment of life are not the same thing.