Does anyone find this wrong?

Question

One of the tenants living in my house is a born-again Christian. We can get along for the most part in most things as long as religion doesn't come up. But I have studied the occult and religions for many years and the kind of church she is in actively opposes the occult (or any other religion as demonic).

Please lets not go into the validity of occultism (magic etc.)
What is important is that we have widely different belief systems and that would be fine. But I find it very offensive that she drew a diagram of her prayers. On this diagram she uses the initials of the people living in our house and close friends. And she drew a binding cross through it. She wanted to bind our "worldly knowledge" so we should listen to her. So she can "save" us. I am quite happy with being sceptical about religion. In all honesty I can say Christianity is not my path nor will it ever be. But I find the almost coercive nature of her prayer very offensive. My house by the way.

She is very ignorant in regards to other religions or the occult in general. Linking Wiccans with Satanism and such.

I just feel judged and hurt by this and I am also treated like I am something lesser to her and her group. They for instance always go to talk in private etc.
I have not come to their "great absolute truth yet"

Thank you mushy001 this is quite a funny image! The Christian vs. the occultist Natural Enemies. Both believing in imaginary realms.

Thank you Ronald S, if I am lost according to you than I am happy to be so. I am quite content.

Answer 1

Get a pentagram rug and put it under her bed, and burn black candles often. Let her find your Voodoo doll and pins kit. Then ask for a lock of hair and fingernail clippings.

Answer 2

Firstly, let me say that according to Christianity (In which I believe this), there only only two religions in the world.
Christianity=which belief in the God of the Bible and Jesus Christ.
Satanism=which is all other beliefs.
Now that being said, let me also say this. 01.) According to the Bible, she shouldn't be living there. Because according to the Bible the house is considered unclean. Due to the fact that a different God is worshiped. Not because of you.
02.) She may be trying to do what she believes is correct (and it is), however she is going about it the wrong way. I would like to know how long she has been a believer. Because it sounds to me that she may be newly converted and her zeal for the lost is outweighing using tact.
It is written in the Bible that we are to witness, but not to bring offense.
Personally, I hope that you come to live the comment down that you will never be a christian. If you have ever noticed, it is usually the thing you say like that is the next thing you actually do. Anyway, yes how she is doing it wrong, because when you become a believer you have a desire to share with everyone your savior.
Another question is, have you ever spoke to her about your feelings on the subject.

Answer 3

I was 53 when I came to know TheTruth of God... for most of my life befor that I knew the truth of the forces of evil. I now thank god for not allowing me to get directly involved with of of that. But I knew from personal experience that those things that some call the "occult" are nothing more than decptions of the forces of evil.

I have been attacked physicaly by the forces of evil and have seen a being from them.

I can now tell you that The True Christian Faith is The Only Way... That The One True God exists.... and I can tell you that there is no "binding cross"... The Cross is a sign of remeberance only... it has no "power" to affect you in any way.
There are far more who think they are "christians" than actualy are. I do not know the heart of the woman you mention... but if it is as you report then she is some off base in her understanding of The Word and Will of God. What you report is not of The True Christian Faith.

As all of the "occult" is from the forces of evil... and the forces of evil are sworn enemies of The One True God... All who participate in these practices are enemies of God. This is not just an exercize of free will... it is an actual war on the spiritual level... a war, the outcome of which has already been determined, that destroys thousand every day by luring them into the deceptions of evil..... This is the same statement I would have made long before I came to be of God's people... my now knowing The Truth only confirms what I already knew of evil.

Answer 4

Well its relative. The cross was taken from the occult in the first place. Prayer is also something that was taken from the occult. So you can look at it like this. She obviously is blinded by her beliefs and doesn't know the history of the symbols she worships so just enjoy the fact that she is blindly or purposly ignorant. No one can save you except YOU! So her prayers have no effect on you ever becoming a religious junkie. Nice question.

Answer 5

Binding rituals and coercive spells to force you to submit to her will? That sounds far more like black magic then Christian prayer. I do not know of a mainstream Christian church that would approve of a binding spell spell on ones neighbors or spells to force people to submit and surrender their free will. In fact that is pretty much what churches used to burn people at the stake for. This sounds like she is a member of a cult or simply has no idea what she believes.
She's probably harmless but if she truly thinks shes a reborn Christian then she missed some of her lessons.

Answer 6

I think your situation is "sticky" but I don't know about wrong. Here, let me explain.....

If she keeps the diagram in her room and doesn't publicly display it. But, if she is praying for you because she cares for you, then the more positive energy the better, right? :)

I think she just doesn't understand what your views are and there are many people in the world who can't understand that people could believe something other than the norm (what she feels is normal).

I hope you don't feel that I'm taking her side, because I'm not. My husband is Jewish. He has also studied many other religions and occult. He has had to introduce me to what he was studying at the time and what he believes. He has had his share of people trying to "save him."

Maybe if the two of you can talk and see if she can just be more private in her praying.

Good luck. Just remember people fear what they don't know.

Answer 7

I am not sure what she was doing but true Christians do not use binding spells. She may have just been making a chart to help her pray. If she said she wanted to bind your worldly knowledge then she was quite wrong in doing so.

If I was her mentor I would encourage her to move out of your house as soon as possible. She needs a good christian living environment one where she can grow.

As for you you can ask her to stop talking to you about her pray life and to leave you out of it. She can if she s wishes. However she should pray for the lost and my friend you are lost.

Answer 8

As a pagan myself, my first opinion is harsh. Get tougher skin, the path you taken is not an easy one and many people are going to come at you from many sides.

Now for what she is doing, sit down and explain to her about the Christian mysticism that she is trying to perform and compare it to a spell of your own. show the similar uses and effects of the spells and then offer to explain how you can't be satanic because you would have to be christian to be live in Satan.

Then explain when she is in a near to do fit that this is your house and she may believe as she wishes but not to go as far as invoking her beliefs on your or any others behalf.

Answer 9

Jesus was an occultist. He was a master of the 50 paths of the Kabbalah. The kingdom (Malkuth), The power (Gedulah) and the Glory (Chesed) are basic Kabbalah concepts. But if you don't know what they mean then you don't know what Jesus means.

The Kabbalah is the "Tree of Life".
There is also a "Tree of Death" on which legions of Demons can be invoked. Jesus was a healer. But he also cursed. (example the fig tree)

Answer 10

I'm Christian and as a Christian I find her practice of ritualistic prayer not much different from yours. She is trying to control you. That is wrong. When I pray for people I pray that God grants them peace and prosperity not about any objections I have to their belief systems.
I don't know if Wiccans pray but I suspect they do and I believe you should pray for her and let her know. But be the bigger person and pray for her peace and happiness and let her know that as well. I believe you might make headway. But two people arguing about belief is just stupid. Don't get me wrong it is nothing I haven't done myself in the past but gratefully God showed me the error of it.

Answer 11

Shes a tenant in Your house. Kick her out as she is obviously to stupid not to offend her landlord.
If you are not the landlord try to talk to the landlord to kick her out for harassment and weird behavior.
If that fails Invite Satanists to the House for a nice demon summoning she can be the sacrifice (the whole virgin thing is just a technicality we don't mind).