Jesus said:"He who has seen me has seen the Father" (Jn.14:9), does this not prove that Jesus and his Father?

Question

are the same?
"Whoever receives this child in my name receives me; and whoever receives me receives Him who sent me;" (Luke 9:48).
Jesus said; "He who believes in me does not believe in me, but in Him who sent me." (John 12:44) "He who hates me hates my Father also. ...but now they have both seen and hated me and my Father as well." (John 15:23-24)
"And this is eternal life, that they may know Thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom Thou hast sent." (John 17:3).
The call of sincerity demands that if believing in the Truth is the honest intention then one could only pass an ethical judgement after reflecting upon all the relevant texts. John 17:3 (quoted above), if read with the following verse clears the air.
Jesus said; "Truly, truly, I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master; neither is the one who is sent greater than the one who sent him." (John 13:16).
Definitely Jesus himself has said many times that God is greater than him, meaning he is not God in Flesh!

Answer 1

Clearly the verses you present speak for themselves. I use the term Manifestation of God. As the rays are the manifestation of the sun, they are not the sun. Experientially and conceptually, however, we might as well think of them as the same because the finite mind of the human cannot conceive of God. The creation, us, cannot imagine/conceive the Creator any more than the bread can imagine the baker or the painting the painter. However, we can more readily access one -- though in no way do I mean totally -- who is a flesh and blood representation or manifestation of God's Will that walks among us.

Answer 2

And said unto them, Whosoever shall receive this child in my name receives Me and whosoever shall receive Me receives him Who sent Me(Luke 9:48), Jesus cried and said, He who believes on Me, believes not on Me, But on Him Who sent Me(John12:44),He who hates Me hates My Father also(John15:23), If I had not done among them the Works which none other man did, they had not had sin, but now have they Both seen and hated Both Me and My Father(John 15:24) And this is Life Eternal, that they might know You the only True God, and Jesus Christ, Whom You have sent (John 17:3), Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his Lord, neither he who is sent greater than he who sends him(John 13:16) Anytime you misquote a verse or try to change a verse, it changes the whole meaning of that verse. So no you are wrong you have not quoted verses, you only changed the verses to try to make a misconception of what the real word of God says................and yes Jesus is God manifested in the Flesh.

Answer 3

Proves absolutely nothing. They are simply words in a book(s) that have been passed down for close to two millenia. Just because it says what it says does not make it truth or a proven fact. It's theology passed down through the centuries but theology, a bit of history (not all history), some great words and concepts that is all it is - not all proven fact.

Jesus and the Father the same - well, if that's what you want to believe. Some do and some don't. I simply no longer believe all the claims espoused in the bible.

Answer 4

Jesus was God in the flesh because that was the only way God can feel, touch and be near man. God in all power is a consuming fire and Spirit. Mt. Sinai in Arabia to this day is burned black on top of it.

God walked as a man with Enoch and Abraham and that part of God was Christ Jesus the Son who could become flesh.
Don't limit God.

Answer 5

Jesus is the word of God made flesh. The word IS God and was with God. John 1:1

Answer 6

No. Jesus and his Father are 2 separate persons. What Jesus said was not to be taken literally. After all, when Jesus spoke those words, he was flesh and blood. God is a spirit. No one has ever seen him. (John 1:18)

The Bible clearly shows that Jesus and his Father are two separate persons. At John 17:3, Jesus called his Father the only true God.

At John 14:28, Jesus said: "The Father is greater than I am."

At John 20:17, Jesus told Mary that he was "ascending to
your Father and my Father and to your God and my God."

At 1 Cor. 1:3, the apostle Paul spoke of "the God and Father of Jesus Christ our Lord."

Jesus is NOT God in the flesh. As he said in his own words at John 3:35: "The Father loves the Son and has given all things into his hand."

Answer 7

I took it to mean that Jews are still saved, even though they do not believe that Jesus is the Son of God.

Of course, I could be wrong....

Check out a non-denominational Bible Study group in your area for better answers to questions like these!

Answer 8

QS: Mary 19:33
"So peace is on me the day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)!"

19:34
Such (was) Jesus the son of Mary: (it is) a statement of truth, about which they (vainly) dispute.

19.35
It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says to it, "Be", and it is.

19:36
Verily Allah is my Lord and your Lord: Him therefore serve ye: this is a Way that is straight.

19:37
But the sects differ among themselves: and woe to the unbelievers because of the (coming) Judgment of a Momentous Day!

Answer 9

this is a hadeeths, and if you read it, it sounds similiar to the Bible verses, this still does not make anybody God.

O son of Adam, I fell ill and you visited Me not. He will say: O Lord, and how should I visit You when You are the Lord of the worlds? He will say: Did you not know that My servant So-and-so had fallen ill and you visited him not? Did you not know that had you visited him you would have found Me with him? O son of Adam, I asked you for food and you fed Me not. He will say: O Lord, and how should I feed You when You are the Lord of the worlds? He will say: Did you not know that My servant So-and-so asked you for food and you fed him not? Did you not know that had you fed him you would surely have found that (the reward for doing so) with Me? O son of Adam, I asked you to give Me to drink and you gave Me not to drink. He will say: O Lord, how should I give You to drink whin You are the Lord of the worlds? He will say: My servant So-and-so asked you to give him to drink and you gave him not to drink. Had you given him to drink you would have surely found that with Me.

Answer 10

Paul 2:45-64
and they gaveth me the bowl to smoke. I then lightedith up the bowl and smokedit.