I being in a relationship with God was disappointed. I think that as representatives of God they should have had better answers. I do realize that they were trying to prove Gods existence without using faith. To me that is like trying to explain seeing to a blind person. Its not possible. That is what makes your relationship with God so special. Faith. I do realize they are trying to save people using other tools but, it didnt work out to well. As far as the debate went they held up pretty good against the atheist but, not nearly as well if they would have used the word of God. Peace out.......
2007-05-10 02:57:37
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answered by powerliftingrules 5
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I felt like Kirk and Ray were trying to meet intellect with intellect, and they failed miserably. The Atheist's questions were simplistic to me, and I was disappointed in how Kirk and Ray handled them.
I wanted to be there to yell answers to them from the audience.
EDIT: The first thing I would have told those atheists is that from a spiritual standpoint they are void of understanding.
! Corinthians 2:14 says, "The natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God for they are foolishness unto him, neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. Then I would have broken it down to them and explained that their puny finite minds could never grasp the truth that comes from the "infinite" mind of God because they are trying to understand the world from a finite perspective when they need the salvation experience that opens up their intellect to receive things of a spiritual nature. Therefore a child that simply received Christ as Saviour has greater understanding than those who reject God.
To argue even further I would explain to them that the Bible makes it clear in Romans 1:19-20 that God has declared He has put the knowledge of Himself in every man so that no man
will ever have a legitimate excuse to deny His existence. So God is perfectly right in saying "The fool has said in his heart that there is no God." I would have come from a straight spiritual perspective, and then the scriptures on God's creation would come into play.
2007-05-10 02:55:44
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answered by Anonymous
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Did not see it. Kirk Cameron is not a scientist. Usually when a debate is publicly held on creation/evolution-we always see a scientist representing the evolution side and a lay person such as Cameron representing the creation side. Evolutionist never debate scientist on creation, only pastors and laymen.
2007-05-10 02:58:00
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answered by johnnywalker 4
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i'm going to watch this and will return with my thoughts...(where did my tab bar go??......)
That further proves that you CAN NOT make a claim that you can prove the existence of any diety with science. It just can't happen. I think that Ray shot himself in the foot the minute he said that every design has to have a designer and every creation a creator. Furthermore he brought the bible into the discussion and Kelly ripped that down to.
I pretty much think that Kirk and Ray bent over and got owned by kelly. That's sad.
P.S. Soooooooo Kirk was an atheist and at one point denied the existence of God. According to their belief that is exactly was blasphemy is. Does that mean Kirk is going to hell? Looks like he should stop with the missionary work because it's not going to get him anywhere.
Another thing that ticked me off is in the beginning they were showing clips of their show. How DARE they go up to people and call them names and tell them they are going to hell? Wish that transvestite that was in another country would have beat that inerviewer down more. Way to win people through the love of christ.
Also, Kirk made me bow my head in shame with his "pascals wager" story.
Next time on Former Child Star.....
2007-05-10 02:56:53
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answered by Sheriff of R&S 4
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I did in fact watch it and just thought Kirk Cameron failed the test. When you come out and say you can prove God's existence without faith you have a huge burden to prove. I just hope that Mr. Cameron doesn't' turn anyone away his foolishness. He never proved his point he just stated why Darwin is wrong, uh that isn't enough dude you supposed to prove he existed and that his word is accurate. He didn't prove a thing!
2007-05-10 02:58:03
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answered by Jesse B 2
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human beings would desire to be careful what they are putting for the duration of while they arrive to a determination to symbolize any group! I do think of the banana element is enormously goofy and non-conclusive, yet nowhere close to as unfavourable as people who call themselves Christians, yet then act hateful or judgmental of others and cause them to think of we are all raving lunatics and hypocrites! i don't think of those adult males did from now on injury to the perception of Christianity, even with the incontrovertible fact that, just to their very own careers and credibility.
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answered by Erika 4
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wow. Christains can never do good in debates like these.
trust me, if you give the same answer that only contradicts what you said in the first place (all christain arguments do) or contradicts what you believe, then your argument is pointless.
there can be no picture without a painter right? well this isnt a painting, so we dont need a painter.
also, if you cant answer a question strait, your so not gonna win.
Atheism, is the return of mental health. thats a fact.
2007-05-10 03:01:25
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answered by me 4
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I didn't see it.
2007-05-10 07:57:35
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answered by Old Hickory 6
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As a Christian, I was very disappointed in the Christian representatives. If that's the best they can do, then we should all become Atheists.
2007-05-10 02:50:02
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answered by S K 7
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I heard the banana won.
2007-05-10 02:54:30
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answered by Resident Heretic 7
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