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no man without sin says1king8;46
christians are sinless says, john3;9
children are punished for the sins of the parents ex20;5
children are not punished for the sins of the parents ezk18;20
god cannot lie heb6;18
god lies by proxy 1kings22;23/ezek14;9
robbery commanded ex3;21
robbery forbidden lev19;13

2007-05-10 02:09:25 · 17 answers · asked by ali k 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

17 answers

Satan has blinded the eyes of the unbeliever
their is no error there if you study and get the full story
eg : no man is without sin ...true we are imperfect
next
Christians are sinless refers to the fact that even though they sin Jesus gave his life to pay for there sin...so in a spiritual sense they are sinless (forgiven)
so instead of trying to run the bible down why don't you study it and get in context so you will at least have an idea what your talking about

2007-05-10 02:27:54 · answer #1 · answered by pestie58 the spider hunter 6 · 3 1

John 3:9 "Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?" has nothing to say about Christians being sinless. (Check your list, you probably mistyped it)

Exodus 20:5 refers to a principle (recognized even by science today) in which the "sins" performed by a parent are normalled passed to their children. If you come from an abusive home, you are more likely to be an abuser. If your parents are alcohalics, you are more likely to be the same. Ezekiel 20 says God will not punish you for someone else's sins. They are very different things.

God can not lie, and never does in scripture. He did allow a lying spirit to speak through these false prophets (it is called "free will" where God will allow you to sin if you want).

In Exodus 3, as the Israelits left Egypt, they were permitted to ask for gold and jewelry from their former masters before they left. This was payment for the years they had been in bondage to these people. That is not theft. You find courts even today giving monetary awards to people who were enslaved in the past. God did it for the Jews.

Again (as always) when you read the whole book instead of just parts, you find it has all the answers.

2007-05-10 02:33:59 · answer #2 · answered by dewcoons 7 · 2 0

Aww. I'm sorry you feel the need to work so hard at not wanting to believe something. Have you convinced yourself yet?

No man is without sin of himself. Christians are sinless only after they accept Jesus and have converted. Jesus removes the sin, and then the Christian is SUPPOSED to change their life. It was impossible to be sinless before Jesus.
(Notice your first verse is from before Jesus, and your second verse was written after Jesus.)

As far as the children being punished for the sins of the parents, that is true. Children with parent who do drugs pay for it. Children with mother's who are abused while the child is in utero, pay for it. King David turned his heart back to God because he realized that the child he conceived with Bathsheba was ill and dying because it was conceived in sin. Ezekiel 18:20 says that the child will not carry the parent's guilt. Does the baby of an addict carry the guilt of mother? No. It wasn't the baby who sinned. Again, this is not an error.

Lying by proxy? I don't see it in Ezekiel, but I do see what you're talking about in 1 Kings... kind of... boy that's a pathetic stretch... was the spirit (not God's Spirit btw) lying or just keeping the false prophets from seeing the future? Of course if the false prophets can't see the future, then they're going to lie to keep their jobs. Anyway, I'll give that part to you just to appease you, but it's still not God lying. So no go.

Exodus 3:21 says: "And I will make the Egyptians favorably disposed toward this people, so that when you leave, you will not go empty-handed."

That doesn't sound like robbery to me. Sounds like gifts.

2007-05-10 02:26:52 · answer #3 · answered by Birdie 3 · 2 1

Friend this is the same question you posted yesterday, maybe a verse or 2 added, What happen, didn't anyone answer your question to satisfy you. I said yerterday there is no errors in the bible, It is that you do not have the Holy Ghost which is the teacher of the bible, Now show me the 1500 errors. It is you that can not interpretate the scriptures correctly.

2007-05-10 02:22:15 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Don't you think that the Bible is from the true God? It is a book of prophecy. The Old Testament prophesied the coming of the Messiah. Did He come? Yes, He did. And it was in the person of Jesus Christ. That is why the Muslims even believe in the prophets in the Old Testament, like Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, and in the New Testament, about Jesus.

Don't you think that prophecy is a better test if something is from the true God or not? Who can say that a virgin would give birth to a son? The Old Testament did. Who can say that the Messiah would be from the house of David and would be born in Bethlehem? The Old Testament did. Who can make such incredible prophecies to happen? Only the true God.

2007-05-10 02:19:18 · answer #5 · answered by Peace Crusader 5 · 2 1

I'd say you are only taking bits a pieces of the verses here and not reading the full text and fully understanding what is being talked about here.For instance... In 1st John 3:9 it is talking about "habitual" sin. Every one sins even Christians..that is why we must ask for forgiveness every day. If we did not sin then we would be perfect and NO one is perfect except for Christ. I could go on with the other text but hopefully I proved my point.

2007-05-10 02:19:22 · answer #6 · answered by ReeRee29 4 · 3 1

God is form, benevolent and merciful. But God could also be wrathful and needs justice. Evil has come into our global via sin, that's for the reason that of loose will. God makes it possible for evil in facet for the reason that this can be a crucial threat of constructing mankind, who're loose to like or to not love. God acknowledges that loose, loving creatures are the sort of best pleasure, that they have got to be valued at the threat. God did not make us robots. We have a loose will to do as we please. If no longer, there might be no honor in loving God, for the reason that we might simply have got to and that's no longer real love. True love is by way of alternative, and with alternative persons can decide on to sin and that's why God need to have a wrathful part and insist justice. At the equal time, regardless of how wretched the evil brought about by way of the sin on the planet, God is best ample to carry approximately via that evil a better well. Just seem at what occurred to Jesus Christ, no bigger of an instance. He used to be ridiculed and tortured relentlessly, and eventually used to be nailed to a pass and succumbed to his horrible wounds. Through this evil, even though, the finest well mankind has ever recognized got here approximately for the reason that of it Instead of claiming that God is merciless and hateful, simply discover what He did for you, and soak up your possess sufferings, your possess pass, and become a member of Jesus.

2016-09-05 15:34:51 · answer #7 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Those who are saved are sinless. We do sin but all our sins are done forgiven. Not saying we can sin and get away with it. But when we sin now it takes us from the fellowship not salvation.
Ezekiel does not say God lies by proxy. So seems what ever your reading has errors not my bible.

2007-05-10 02:16:49 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 3 2

"What do u say about this Ali K. Parents are punished by proxy. Children lie."

These are YOUR words taken out of context from Your question. Have do you like it?

When you shoot off your mouth, don't hit your foot.

2007-05-10 02:32:03 · answer #9 · answered by grnlow 7 · 2 0

I say it's the inerrant word of God mixed with many human errors. I say it's timeless wisdom combined with outdated superstition. I say it's a perfect reference with confusing contradictions.

2007-05-10 02:18:52 · answer #10 · answered by Squirrley Temple 7 · 0 0

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