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You Christians blow me away by your lack of knowledge of the bible. I don't know if the fault is with you our your church. Do you not remember Moses who knew God, Enoch from Genesis walked with God, You ever hear of that book by the way? Isaiah reasoned with God. Come on have you become such sheep to the ways of man that you have lost your capacity to think clearly and critically? This is not a put down but a call to all of you to just wake up. Make your peace with God The Father---God The Creator. Even Jesus himself prayed by saying Our Father he didn't say our Jesus.

2007-05-10 01:44:49 · 18 answers · asked by Jesse B 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Maybe and perhaps I am the only one who doesn't follow blindly. Jesus was a highly spiritual man not God, so please do not insult God like this. Jesus wrote no books and all we have about is heresey. His parents did not write books about him and there are about 30 years of his life unaccounted for, he could have been gay for all I know. Praise the most high God the one and only God and you won't be steered astray

2007-05-10 02:07:13 · update #1

18 answers

Clearly, Jesus isn't the only way.
Infants/young children have no knowledge of Jesus, as do many adults throughout the world.
Even christians don't say that they are going to hell.
So, by definition, there are other ways....

Of course, it's all fairytales anyway.

2007-05-10 01:50:53 · answer #1 · answered by Samurai Jack 6 · 1 4

Wow. It is funny that you go on a rant like this, blaming Christians for not knowing the bible...When you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Yes, the saints (I use that word in a non Catholic sense) in the Old Test. did know God and not Jesus. Yes, they talked to Him. THAT WAS OLD TEST. Jesus is New Test. and the bible clearly says that Jesus is the Son of God. So, what exactly should Jesus call His Father? Also, the bible is clear that the only way to Heaven (from that point on) is through the blood of Jesus. Where is the confusion? We have to love God and believe in His love and power and grace. But if we do not follow Jesus and accept His gift of salvation, then we are lost. God bless you.

2007-05-10 02:02:10 · answer #2 · answered by TripleTattoo™ 4 · 1 1

Does the Bible show that true Christians would be an organized people?

Matt. 24:14; 28:19, 20: “This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.” “Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them . . . teaching them.” (How would this be accomplished without organization? When Jesus trained his early disciples for this work, He did not simply tell each one to go wherever he desired and to share his faith in whatever way he chose. He trained them, gave them instructions and sent them out in an organized manner. See Luke 8:1; 9:1-6; 10:1-16.)

Heb. 10:24, 25: “Let us consider one another to incite to love and fine works, not forsaking the gathering of ourselves together, as some have the custom, but encouraging one another, and all the more so as you behold the day drawing near.” (But to where would a person direct interested ones so they could obey this command if there were no organization with regular meetings where they could gather?)

1 Cor. 14:33, 40: “God is a God, not of disorder, but of peace. . . . Let all things take place decently and by arrangement.” (The apostle Paul is here discussing orderly procedure at congregation meetings. Applying this inspired counsel requires respect for organization.)

1 Pet. 2:9, 17: “But you are ‘a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for special possession, that you should declare abroad the excellencies’ of the one that called you out of darkness into his wonderful light. . . . Have love for the whole association of brothers.” (An association of people whose efforts are directed to accomplish a particular work is an organization.)

2007-05-10 01:50:30 · answer #3 · answered by sxanthop 4 · 0 2

They believed that Messiah would come and provide the ransom for them! That was the whole point with the animal sacrifices the Law Covenant demanded -- these portrayed the sacrifice Messiah was going to make that would forever deliver them from sin.

Do you not know what Paul said about the Law? That it was a Tutor to Christ!
Galatians 3:24 So that the law is become our tutor to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. (ASV)

Even ancient Job that probably lived before the Law Covenant was instituted and most likely was not a Jew believed in Jesus though not knowing his personal name:

Job 19:25 For I know [that] my redeemer liveth, and [that] he will stand at the latter [day] upon the earth: (Webster)

2007-05-10 02:54:14 · answer #4 · answered by Fuzzy 7 · 0 0

Try reading what the Bible says sometime. It states that the Old Testament people were saved by believing in Jesus. It is just that they looked FORWARD to his coming in faith, while we look BACK to it in faith.

Jesus stated that "Abraham saw His (Jesus') day and rejoiced".
In Duetronomy Moses looks ahead to the "prophet who will be like him" that according to Acts 2 and 6 was Jesus.
David saw the coming of Christ, and wrote several prophecies about it. Read Psalms 22 some time, with its 2 dozen prophecies of events fulfilled during the crucifixion of Christ.
Isaiah saw Jesus coming, and proclaimed how he would carry our sins and sorrow, and would redeem us on the cross.
Hebrews 11 list many of those great heroes of faith from the Old Testament, and explains that there salvation was based on the promise of the coming Messiah.

When you take the time to read the Bible, you will discover that the answer to your question is clearly stated multiple times throughout the scriptures.

2007-05-10 01:55:33 · answer #5 · answered by dewcoons 7 · 1 1

You are arguing against God's arrangement.

Before Jesus came to the earth the Jews had to make animals sacrifices and burnt offerings to atone for their sins which was a foreshadow of Jesus' for all time sacrifice for mankind.

Now Jesus has completed his mission on earth and died sinless on a torture stake he is the one sacrifice that atones all repentant sinners thus no more sacrifices are necessary.
His perfect sacrifice was the ransom paid for the sinful mankind that repented. So it is through Jesus that we owe our hope of everlasting life and forgiveness of sin. That is the arrangement God provided for us.

John 14:6
Jesus said to him: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

John 3:16
For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life.

2007-05-10 01:48:44 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Through the Law or Ten Commandments which is the Foundation for Gods Government.

2007-05-10 01:50:59 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

The first five books of the Bible are from the Torah. Everything is explained there.
Jesus said," I am the way, the truth and the life. No-one comes to the father except by me." Jesus, The Father and Holy Spirit are one and the same.

2007-05-10 01:57:43 · answer #8 · answered by Cal 5 · 0 2

Now days we remember Jesus and what he did for it, before his time they anticipated Jesus. Moses, Enoch and Isaiah all knew God and they all knew His Son. The Isrealites had the law in anticipation of the fulfillment of the law (Jesus), so they made burnt offerings. The offerings themselves didn't atone for thier sins, but they signified the atonement that Jesus would make, and the Faith of the Isrealites that they showed by offering burnt offerings is what allowed them to be forgiven of any sins.

2007-05-10 01:56:06 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Due to the fact that your knowledge of Christian soteriology (get a dictionary) lacks even a modicum of unbiased and rational analysis, I won't even bother trying to explain it. If you really want to understand, ask for suggestions about what to read and study. I'm not telling you, that you have to believe, just to have a true, complete, clear, critical, rational understanding of exactly what it is that Christians believe without going on some rant which is devoid of knowledge and rational thought.

2007-05-10 02:26:57 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

There is only ONE Redemptive name, & that is Jesus Christ. Now to answer your question how saints in the OT were walking with God, That is true, but you fail to see that the OT sints were looking forward to calvery, While the NT saints is looking back to calvery, & you fail to see when Jesus was Crucified He went to hell to preach unto those souls in prison,Or paridise, those souls that had longed for the Day God will send a Redeemer, Now study the resurrection of Jesus Christ, When he rose from the dead the bible says & THE GRAVES WAS OPENED, whose graves, Those OT saints. So I never say that The OT saints did not wlk with God, They did walk with God, But yet they had to look forward to the time God will send a redeemer, Just as David said That this redeemer will not leave his soul in hell, the paridise part. So In fact they all had to come through Jesus Christ, As I said the oT saints look toward calvery while the NT saints look back to calvery, But ALL redemtion came through Jesus Christ as God gave him that authority. Elijah & Enoch was translated

2007-05-10 01:58:02 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

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