the prophecy challenge!!!?

Question

here's the rules. you give me a prophecy that jesus fulfilled and i or fellow atheists have to explain it in a reasonable way that any man could have fulfilled it, i.e. no divine intervention. let the games begin!!!

for those of us who don't have a bible handy why don't you be more specific than citing an entire chapter of psalms?

17 hunter, are you referring to his alleged resurrection? the one that very few people witnessed. the one that has contradicting stories in the first four gospels? even the bible can't keep that story straight, so it's just that, a story.

patron, that is not verifiable. i could say my uncle died for your sins. can you disprove that? come on people, let's get some things that are verifiable.

Answer 1

OK. I'll take on royal racer.

In Psalms 22:16 it says this "they pierced my hands and my feet" which appears to be a clear prophecy of Jesus' crucifixion. However, if you read Psalms 22 in Hebrew you will find that it actually says "like a lion, they are at my hands and feed."

Kind of a big difference, huh? So why did the King James version translate it that way. To make it appear as though it was prophecy. No other reason.

Answer 2

There are around 800 prophecies fulfilled by Jesus. Do you think that you could explain all of them away.
More importantly, I would like to share with you the Truth about the afterlife. I only tell you this because I care what will happen to you when you die. Have you ever told a lie, stolen anything, used God’s name in vain? These are just a few of God’s Moral Laws. When you die, God will judge you on the basis of His Moral Law. If you stand guilty before God of breaking His Laws, He will send you to Hell. If God is Just and Holy, He must punish lawbreakers. The good news is that God provided a way for you to be forgiven and go to Heaven. Jesus Christ died on a cross and rose again to pay the debt for your sins and take your punishment. What you must do is Repent, which means to say you are sorry to God and turn away from your sins. Then put your complete Trust in Jesus Christ. Only then will you be accepted into Heaven, not because you’re a good person, but because you’re a bad person who’s been forgiven. Please give this some thought. Your Eternal Destination depends on it.

Answer 3

That's a loaded challenge. Fulfillment of prophesy simply means that an event is described, and then the event takes place. Divine intervention doesn't even come into play. Any man could have fulfilled any prophesy, because prophetic events are mundane. What kind of challenge is that?

The other problem is that Messianic "prophesies" were derived through the "pesher" of the text - i.e. ancient bibliomancy. In other words, most of the prophesies regarding Christ were based on eisegesis, rather than actual 'prophesies' in the conventional sense.

Answer 4

In the fifth century B. C. a prophet named Zechariah declared that the Messiah would be betrayed for the price of a slave--thirty pieces of silver, according to Jewish law--and also that this money would be used to buy a burial ground for Jerusalem's poor foreigners (Zechariah 11:12-13). Bible writers and secular historians both record thirty pieces of silver as the sum paid to Judas Iscariot for betraying Jesus, and they indicate that the money went to purchase a "potter's field," used--just as predicted--for the burial of poor aliens (Matthew 27:3-10).
(Probability of chance fulfillment=1 in 10^11.)

Answer 5

Zechariah 9:9
See, your king comes to you, righteous and having salvation, gentle, and riding on a donkey, on a cold the foal of a donkey.

Jeremiah 13:31-34 I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah. It will not be like the covenant I made with their forefathers... I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts

Psalms 69:20-22 They put gall in my food and gave me vinegar for my thirst.

Psalms 72:10-11 The kings of Tarnish and of distant shores will bring tribute to him; the kings of Sheba and Seba will present him gifts. All kings will bow down to him and all nations will serve him.

Isaiah 29:18 In that day the deaf will hear the words of the scroll, and out of gloom and darkness eyes of the blind will see.

Micah 5:1 They will strike Israel's ruler on the cheek with a rod.

Micah 5:2-5 But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from old, from ancient times

Answer 6

No. My God does not play games...and neither do I. Non believers can always find a way to explain things they do not believe whether it be prophecy or creation. It would be a waste of my time because you are not open to the truth. (And I know I just copped a line from you athesists)

Answer 7

Did anyone else hear the Fifth Trumpet sound when Saddam lit oil wells on fire during first gulf war?
Before this period of time I discovered a large Satanic cult in the town I lived in. I started to tell people what I discovered, this is when I learned that this Secret Society was watching me. I began to receive verbal threats against myself and family members. I discovered this cult is extremely large, dangerous, secretive, and spreading like a cancer threw society. To the best of my knowledge this organization tricks seduces and forces its victims to play occult games and practices causing the spirit of the Antichrist/Satan to enter the persons soul and enslaving them/bondage to witch craft/Demonic forces. After this the ceremony Transcendental Mediation, "down the rabbit /Pie hole" assisted with witchcraft. During period when oil wells were lit ablaze I was attacked on three different occasions all at night by a scorpion Demon. The third time I was attacked this Demon took its tail placed it on my left hand and sent waves of fire threw my soul. Locust = Scorpion Demon & stings

Answer 8

Pslams 22

Answer 9

His birth. Look at all of the things Jesus had to fulfill without even being alive (i.e. which tribe he was from, birthplace, parents, etc.) here's a link

http://www.whoisjesus-really.com/english/preview.htm

Answer 10

I want to see you answer Jennifer's post
He fulfilled 40+ prophesies - maybe you could find someone else to each of them but you will not find one other person fulfill all of them