Is this the most complete explanation of the Trinity ?

Question

‘Christ according to the faith, is the second person in the Trinity, the Father being the first and the holy Ghost the third. Each of these three persons is God. Christ is his own father and his own son. The Holy Ghost is neither father nor son, but both. The son was begotten by the father, but existed before he was begotten--just the same before as after. Christ is just as old as his father, and the father is just as young as his son. The Holy Ghost proceeded form the Father and Son, but was an equal to the Father and Son before he proceeded, that is to say before he existed, but he is of the same age as the other two. Nothing ever was, nothing ever can be more perfectly idiotic and absurd than the dogma of the Trinity.’

- Col. Robert G. Ingersoll


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Answer 1

I would agree that nothing could be more idiotic than this professed understanding of the Trinity, which is completely erroneous and nonsensical.

Answer 2

No, this has some things that are right but most is false. There are three in unity, three in total agreement -therefore tri-unity or shortened to Trinity. If you can understand a God who is the Creator of the whole universe and everything in it and accept that He desired an heir, a Son, He had to have a Son like Himself. Just as ducks produce ducks and humans produce humans , therefore God's own Son had to be divine also. Cloning is something that people can do now to reproduce themselves exactly. So, if humans can do that, how much more can God create a Son out of His own Being! The Bible says He is the exact image of the invisible God. The Holy Spirit is the spirit of God. You have a spirit yourself and people will often describe people by saying things like "He has a very quiet spirit". The spirit part describes the character of a person and is that part that remains alive after death, with all the understanding, memories etc. intact. Since the Holy Spirit and Jesus all come from God the Father and are the same as the Father in essence, they are One.

Answer 3

This is a definition... I could even define it in a more complicated way... or, as we know, the essence of good communication is simplicity, we could try to explain this in a much simpler way. Please note that although I was brought up as a Christian, I don't care much about religion but I like to study the subject and this is my version of the Trinity.

Something similar

Imagine 3 squares, a Big Square a Medium square and a small square. We can see them as 3 different entities or we can see them as being part of a system called Square.

Something more similar

Imagine your knowledge, self-knowledge and love. We can see they are three different entities or we can say they are all part of the mind. This is the Trinity or God within each one of us.

It is now easy to understand that the Trinity is one God (the same essence ) that has different names (Father, Son and the Holly Spirit). No surprise to anyone that the same thing can have diferent names.

As for the creation and the beginning of each one of the 3 Personae? Easy, Jesus was the way God showed himself to us and spread His Word - one activity. The Holly Spirit is nothing more tan the Holly Breath (Latin spiriti) - another activity - God himself is transcendent, The Father is hidden in inaccessible light and made himself known through His Word and the presence of His Breath - (activities or energeiai)

To sum up the Trinity is nothing mora than God that we cannot acces him, spread his Word(Jesus) using the presence of His own Breath

Answer 4

it sure does

In Christianity, the doctrine of the Trinity states that God is one being who exists, simultaneously and eternally, as a mutual indwelling of three persons: the Father, the Son (incarnate as Jesus of Nazareth), and the Holy Spirit. Since the 4th century, in both Eastern and Western Christianity, this doctrine has been stated as "one God in three persons," all three of whom, as distinct and co-eternal persons, are of one indivisible Divine essence, a simple being. Supporting the doctrine of the Trinity is known as Trinitarianism. The majority of Christians are Trinitarian, and regard belief in the Trinity as a test of orthodoxy. Opposing, nontrinitarian positions that are held by some groups include Binitarianism (two deities/persons/aspects), Unitarianism (one deity/person/aspect), the Godhead (Latter Day Saints) (three separate beings) and Modalism (Oneness).

In addition to teaching that God comprises three persons, the doctrine also teaches that the Son Himself has two distinct natures, one fully divine and the other fully human.

Neither the Old Testament nor New Testament uses the term "Trinity," though Trinitarians believe the concept is implicit in various biblical passages (see Scripture section below). The doctrine of the Trinity is the result of continuous exploration by the church of the biblical data, argued in debate and treatises.[1] It was expressed in early writings from the beginning of the second century forward.[1] The First Council of Nicaea in 325 AD established a nearly universal Trinitarian dogma and expressly rejected any heresies. The most widely recognized Biblical foundations for the doctrine's formulation are in the Gospel of John

Answer 5

No, but here is a nice explanation of God from approximately 350 AD.

We believe in one God
the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all that is, seen and unseen
We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one Being with the Father;
through him all things were made.
For us and for our salvation
he came down from heaven,
was incarnate of the Holy Spirit
and the Virgin Mary
and became truly human.
For our sake he was crucified
under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered death and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in accordance with the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand
of the Father.
He will come again in glory
to judge the living and the dead,
and his kingdom will have no end.
We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord,
and the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son,
who with the Father and the Son
is worshiped and glorified,
who has spoken through the prophets.
We believe in the one holy catholic
(Christian) and apostolic church.
We acknowledge one baptism
for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead,
and the life of the world to come. Amen.
[Nicean Creed]

Answer 6

No, the complete explanation would include how it was ripped off from Paganism by the Catholic church and then dressed up as Monotheism, when in fact it isn't, and then introduced to Christianity, effectively making an extremely convoluted belief system even more convoluted.
I agree with the last part, about the idiotic nature of the Trinity in the context of Christian beliefs, but in the original polytheistic context it makes absolute sense.

Answer 7

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Answer 8

This is an example of a person who has no true understanding of the nature of GOD.

A TRUE UNDERSTANDING OF THE NATURE OF GOD ONLY COMES TO A CHRISTIAN BY THE INTERPRETATION OF THE INDWELLING HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD.

( if it seems like I am shouting, I am attempting to shout into everyones hearing and understanding, throughout all time and space and dimensions, for all eternity )

dave

Answer 9

trying to grasp the concept of the trinity as a mere human is like a coachraoch trying to under stand humans. It is pure egotism for us to think that just because it's something we can't explain it's not real.

Answer 10

In my personal opinion, there's no logical explanation for the Trinity. It's a belief and you can only have faith in it. Do not attempt to explain it logically. It is *not* logical.

Believe it if you want, but don't try to explain it.