Does the Trinity concept Confuse You ?

Question

Is God three separate entities ?

God the father, the Son and the Holy Ghost.

All three were in separate forms at the same time – Jesus, the Dove and the Lord whom Jesus was speaking to.

If so, then this concept is clearly a Trinity and a Trinity cannot ever be called monotheism. Unless you can call the number 3 a number 1.

It took 451 years (after Jesus) for the scholars to decide to make the Trinity the foundation of Christianity.

If the Trinity is the foundation of Christianity then can anyone explain exactly what it is ?


‘Christ according to the faith, is the second person in the Trinity, the Father being the first and the holy Ghost the third. Each of these three persons is God. Christ is his own father and his own son. The Holy Ghost is neither father nor son, but both. The son was begotten by the father, but existed before he was begotten--just the same before as after. Christ is just as old as his father, and the father is just as young as his son. The Holy Ghost proceeded form the Father and Son, but was an equal to the Father and Son before he proceeded, that is to say before he existed, but he is of the same age as the other two. Nothing ever was, nothing ever can be more perfectly idiotic and absurd than the dogma of the Trinity.’

- Col. Robert G. Ingersoll



God is not the author of confusion. (1 Corinthians 14:33)




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Answer 1

I'll never figure it out

Answer 2

For the Holy Trinity, you need to remember the following verse:

Matt 25:19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in[a] the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

Footnotes:
a.Matthew 28:19 Or into; see Acts 8:16; 19:5; Romans 6:3; 1 Cor. 1:13; 10:2 and Gal. 3:27.

This verse dates the Holy Trinity to the first Century A.D.

There is nothing that I can do the present the Holy Trinity any clearer than you already have. It is a Christian belief.

There is a story about Augustine who one day was setting on a beach trying to figure out the Holy Trinity. He look a saw a boy filling a cup of water and pouring into a hole in sand. He kept doing this over and over. Finally Augustine got up and asked the boy what was he doing. The boy said he was moving the sea into the hole in the sand. Augustine surprise said that would be impossible. The boy responded saying it would be easier for me to move the sea into the hole in the sand, than for you to understand the Holy Trinity.

Do you expect to find rationalization in belief?

Answer 3

It is not confusing at all but the only conclusion that makes sense based on Jesus' teaching and that of the apostles. It was declared dogma at the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD and is explained in the most detail in the Athanasian Creed of Christ's Church. There are clear references to the Trinity in the "Didache" to the Trinitarian belief which is one of the earliest writings of the Catholic Church predating much of their Canonical writing.

I agree that the Doctrine of the Trinity is hard to grasp by the finite human intellect when using as reference already acquired knowledge relating God to the human condition. But, this is foolishness, for God is not limited to the rules and laws of His creation and defies any box we try to put Him in. If we cannot understand fully we should just accept the Trinity on faith for there is no other definition of God that does not contradict the Sacred Tradition of the Church including the Holy Scriptures.

In Christ

Answer 4

Spiritual realities do not have limitations that physical realities do. God is three persons and one substance -- this is a spiritual reality about which we can try to use analogies in the physical world (Patrick's clover), but like all analogies, they fail at some point.

Scholars didn't "decide" that God is a trinity. They were simply answering questions such as the very one you are asking, based on what is revealed in the Bible.

Indeed, God is not the author of confusion. There is nothing per se "confusing" I find about the trinity. But is there mystery about the trinity? Certainly. If God had zero mystery about Him, I doubt I could esteem Him as greater than myself, as God.

May God bless you.

Answer 5

No, it extremely isn't any longer puzzling in any respect. by the Bible, God recognised to human beings in distinctive techniques; each and every now and then interior the flesh, each and every now and then in a dream, even a burning bush. The question is, can God seem to human beings in any way he chooses? I say sure. while God chosen to look as Jesus, it replaced into with the reason of being a kind for others to stay with. He gave us a kind for prayer, a kind for tolerance, a kind for romance, a kind for preferable and serving. He lived the existence that he needed us to emulate. He defined issues purely and replaced into unambiguous. We pray to God the father, we've Jesus the son as a kind, and the Holy Spirit for convenience solutions to prayer, and so on. merely as for the period of my very own existence, I even have been a son, a father, an worker, a husband, and so on. that would not make me distinctive beings. The trinity is all the way by the hot testomony. there replaced into no might desire to attend 4 hundred years to invent it. Why do human beings consistently attempt to take this kind of basic concept and complicate it or reason doubt? for sure i understand why . . . the respond is interior the Bible. . that replaced right into a rhetorical question.

Answer 6

No, God is not the author of confusion, however any effort to fully comprehend God using nothing more than mere human intellect is certain to cause confusion, for the finite cannot contain the infinite, nor can the imperfect comprehend the perfect. We know with absolute certainty that the One True God is Trinity, for He Himself has revealed this fact and God does not reveal untruth. But as far as comprehending the Trinity, this is simply far beyond the capability of the human mind. Which is why this essential truth is referred to as "a mystery of the faith" - a truth that can be known but not completely understood or explained. Considering that the difference between the mind of God and the minds of men is greater than the difference between the minds of men and the minds of earthworms, it is hardly surprising that such mysteries exist.

Answer 7

The doctrine of the Trinity is one of those subject which leaves everybody feeling confused but we use it simply to describe how amazing God is. God is so big, so wonderful and so far beyond our imaginations that to our minds he really doesn’t seem to make sense! So if somebody comes up to you and says, go one then you're a Christian explain the Trinity then you're response could be simply to say

‘The Trinity is a way of us saying as Christians that God is much bigger and more complicated than we will ever know.... you can’t put him in your pocket’

Cults have arisen whenever some thinker has attempted to define this most difficult of concepts to grasp. The Jehovah Witnesses arose from their heretical attempt to solve this issue. The Mormons did not spring forth from this issue, but they do have their own explanation for the Trinity, which is unorthodox and not in keeping with Christian history and thought. May I speculate that Muhammad, the founder of the Islamic religion, did not understand the Trinity at all? Muhammad teaches that God will punish those who believe in a trinitarian God.

When you attempt to define the Infinite God with finite terms you come up heretical. It is impossible to define God in words, to do so is idolatrous. When you attempt to define the NT statements about God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, you come up ridiculous. He is beyond knowing; yet he has made himself known through history, through covenants, through Israel, through prophets, through scripture, and ultimately and definitively through Jesus the God-man, the incarnate son of God. It took almost 200 years after the resurrection of Christ before the church "got embarrassed" and had to justify their god-talk with contemporary ideas. The problem comes in when we try to place God in a box as though we could really understand an all powerful God!

Answer 8

Hi Crewsifiction,

I'm really sorry that the Trinity is confusing,...because it is. I do my best to abstain from figuring it out. Lol..I just gave it up a long time ago; I got more and more confused. We just have to trust that it's the right way to think about things.

In a nutshell, I think the best way to understand it is to see God as one "what" and three "who's".

God, or the Word of God, existed from the beginning of time and made the world (Genesis 1), but He was not alone. Christ was with Him. Please remember that Christ is just like God--same principles, same thoughts, same purpose for the world. Analogously, I have all of the primary traits of my father: "I am my father"...as the saying goes. God and Jesus have the same relationship: God is considered "The Father" and Jesus is "The Son".

At the right time, God sent Jesus to earth by way of natural birth just like a normal human (John 1). Since Jesus has the same characteristics as God, then it is just like God Himself turning into a man and coming to earth to walk among us himself. Once Jesus got here, he ministered to folks, healed them, and did all kinds of miracles. He was crucified, died, rose from the dead, then ascended from heaven.

Since, he could no longer be with us in person, that's where the Holy Spirit comes in (John 14:15-28; 15:26-27 and Acts 1-2). Just like Jesus, the Holy Spirit has the same characteristics of God--his principles, his thoughts, and his purposes. When Jesus rose to heaven, he sent the Holy Spirit back to take care us and minister to us until he returns at the end of time. Unlike God and Jesus, though, the Holy Spirit lives inside of the people who believe that Jesus is Savior of the world.

To summarize, God manifested himself into three forms: God, His Son Jesus, and The Holy Spirit. All of them are the same thing.

Have a wonderful day. I hope this helps,
Reggie:)

Answer 9

The confusion with the Trinity is that we are mere men, we have no concept in to how God thinks or acts or his ways. We can compare our understandings to be but a grain of sand in the universe when compared to God.

We have to accept on faith those things that we can not totally
understand.

Answer 10

God is one but manifests in 3 different forms taking 3 different personalities (not gods),
1-Father: Is the word, mind, thinking.=mind
2- Son: action=hand
3- Holy Spirit: essence= spirit,body.

Answer 11

Trinity is very real and can be known by experience. Old Testament states, "Let us make man in our image" - Genesis. New Testament gives numerous examples as well.