Has science found evidence that God may exist ?

Question

Scientists have come to accept that 23% of the universe is made up of what they have labelled Dark Matter ("dark", as it cannot be observed). Another 73% is Dark Energy .They don't know exactly what this is or what it is composed of, but postulate it must exist for their astronomical scientific calculations to make sense. Could this turn out to be "God" ? Why not ? "God" is supposed to be everywhere.

Sweet, 5 posts to get to the "Fairies" argument. Usually pops up sooner. So compelling, so well thought. Gets me every time. I concede.

I am not proposing dark matter IS God, I am saying, if we don't know what it is, why couldn't it be "God" ? Oh, that's right, because it would mean the Tooth Fairy also exists. Silly me.

Ah, my nom de guerre is my downfall. Touche, babel fish, touche.

I stand by my credo : "Atheists, show me proof God does not exist, to the same standard of proof you require odf believers to prove his existence, or call yourselves Agnostics" !

"invisible pink unicorn"... makes a change from the tooth fairy. Need I remind you, you can't "see" Dark Matter, or sub atomic particles either. I'm not stating God exists, I'm stating you have no proof that he doesn't, to the same standard of proof you would require of others to prove that he does. The Bible is NOT proof, but it is a historical document made from observations of people who were around when those events were happening. Billions of believers, continuing to believe, is NOT proof. Documented miracles (called so after intensive investigation from the Roman Catholic church) is NOT proof. But at least it's better than the Tooth Fairy (or invisible pink unicorn) argument. Show me your proof, to the same standard as these few examples, or call yourself an Agnostic ! The challenge is there !

Answer 1

Well, to say that evidence has been found, I don't think so exactly but that being said I think that even most scientists are beginning to wonder about a "higher power." All though the ages there were those who claimed to have the answers and almost always those answers proved to be wrong or at least flawed.

The Hubble telescope sees a lot of things and what it doesn't see is much more important, I think. We have no idea, for sure, of how light and gravity interact in space. All that the Hubble sees maybe a distortion. And I think it will take a few more hundreds of years to even state anything as a fact. Even though, many people are duped into thinking we have a lot of facts about life and space.

Answer 2

Scientist have found out a lot already, for example recently this picture and proof of dark matter:
http://chandra.harvard.edu/photo/2006/1e0657/media/
Doesn't really look like god.
As long as you don't assume that "god is everything" (I think this is more or less what hindu's believe.), but a creator that created everything, like we can create a car, but not are the car, dark matter and dark energy are not god, like iron ,water and light are not god.
But is there any sign of a god or creator "outside" our universe?
So far, no. Quantum mechanics is for a large part scientific fact, and string theory may even be proved to be fact in the CERN particle accelerator, but what it will most likely reveal is dark matter and dark energy. What quantum mechanics and string theory do predict is total randomness. This is not total randomness always, but all kinds and every kind of universes (including ours, able to support live as we know it) have existed, are existing, even in your living room without you being able to see them, and will exist. You may blame a god for this, but still there's no sign that there is a creator that did this, let alone that he's interacting with what you assume that he has made.
On the other hand, what science has found out, though not exactly how yet, that it's very likely that life can be formed in space, and that there might be numerous places in our universe where might be life also. It is very unlikely that these other lifeforms on other planets have initiated life on earth. It looks much more like there's been some seed-cells that came on earth in some sort of cloud, or meteorite, because genetic evidence shows that all life on earth, plants, sponges and animals, are coming from the same origin.
So far, no god, no creator, and the biblical one is quite ruled out completely. God is faith, an ancient attempt to explain the inexplicable, no science, and therefore it's not up to science to come up with evidence of god.

Answer 3

Hi,
The work of the dedicated Scientists of the world are great; I know from studies in Scripture that there is no need to jump onto either the religon bandwagon or the science bandwagon - they go together quite well,
and there is no controversy in Gods Word with the Sciences. God created them, too!
Yeah, I know people THINK there is a controversy, but there is not. The Bible declares this earth to be eons and eons old; in fact, it states that there was an entire earth age before this one. You can read of the three earth ages in 2peter. There are many unknown things in science that our feeble human brains may never "discover",
and we tend to give ourselves a bit too much credit for smarts, ya know? Hey, if they don't know whats out there, then they don't know - right?

Answer 4

100 years ago this year, Albert Einstein published three papers that rocked the world. These papers proved the existence of the atom, introduced the theory of relativity, and described quantum mechanics.

Pretty good debut for a 26-year-old scientist, huh?
His equations for relativity indicated that the universe was expanding. This bothered him, because if it was expanding, it must have had a beginning and a beginner. Since neither of these appealed to him, Einstein introduced a 'fudge factor' that ensured a 'steady state' universe, one that had no beginning or end.

But in 1929, Edwin Hubble showed that the furthest galaxies were fleeing away from each other, just as the Big Bang model predicted. So in 1931, Einstein embraced what would later be known as the Big Bang theory, saying, "This is the most beautiful and satisfactory explanation of creation to which I have ever listened." He referred to the 'fudge factor' to achieve a steady-state universe as the biggest blunder of his career.
Einstein's theories have been thoroughly proved and verified by experiments and measurements, but there's an even more important implication of Einstein's discovery. Not only does the universe have a beginning, but also time itself, our own dimension of cause and effect, began with the Big Bang.

That's right -- time itself does not exist before then. The very line of time begins with that creation event. Matter, energy, time and space were created in an instant by intelligence outside of space and time.

About this intelligence, Albert Einstein wrote in his book "The World As I See It" that the harmony of natural law "Reveals an intelligence of such superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection."

He went on to write, "Everyone who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe--a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble."
Pretty significant statement, wouldn't you say?
Peace and every blessing!

Answer 5

Dose or will that ever matter, many men will try to prove it wrong and many will try to prove it right.
Just because there scientists don't make them right all the time there still only men.
Believing in God is by faith, trying to prove it has nothing to do with faith.
I chose to believe and no matter what man Say's, I will take Gods word over any mans, it makes no difference who they are or what job they have, If they have all the intelligences this world has to offer that won't save them.

Answer 6

God cannot be inferred and he is definitely not the Dark Matter or the Dark Energy - God is God.

The next question would be, where did this dark energy or dark matter come from should we accept that God is either - then the big question of Where God came from will be answered, should we understand where the dark matter/energy came from.

Answer 7

Could it be God?

The spasms of a dying religion, vainly attempting to find some shred of credibility.
I've seen men drown with more dignity.

I've watched the God-ites on this forum, so desperate to find anything to cling to.
Does anyone really think some 'dark matter', or 'energy' will save their cause?
They'll be believing in Auras and Kirlian photography as "proof positive", next.

News flash, Christians; the Dark Ages are over, time to come out into the light of the Age of Reason.

Answer 8

It is the other way around. The existence of God is evident in all branches of Science. Here's a few:
1. Order- without it, think of atoms bumping one another, or planets colliding
2. Every design needs a Designer.
3. Reason for existence. Even microbes exist because a predator needs one.

Answer 9

God is a Spirit. You cannot find any physicall mass and call it God.

Do the math. To believe that the world found order out of chaos is mathematically improbable.

Your question makes me wonder if your 'Flat Earth Socitey' membership dues are paid up. Ge real.

Answer 10

we can't get past the moon. Nobody has any idea what's beyond. Does anyone really know why we or anything else exists ? Why are we on the only inhabitable planet in our little galaxy ? There is something greater than us. What is infinity ?