Vegan help!?

Question

I am trying to understand the opposite side of the vegan debate. I am having an extremely difficult time finding any information that contradicts the vegan lifestyle. I need solid facts and statistics. Anyone know where I can find info like this?

I am not looking for slanted opinions.

And I am not talking about meat. I am referring to dairy and eggs only please.

I am not asking what a vegan is. I am asking, how many cows are actually harmed in the milking process? In relation to the amount of cows in the entire diary industry, what percentage of them is actually harmed? And what percentage of chickens are battery hens? Questions like these.... I feel that many things about veganism might be exaggerated and I want to know what the real truth is.

Answer 1

Are you asking for information that supports or contradicts the vegan lifestyle?

Your additional details seem to contradict your original question.

Anyway, you asked about dairy.

Cows are mammals.
Mammals produce milk to feed their young after giving birth.
Therefore for cows to produce milk, they have to bear young.

What happens to the calves that are born?

The females go on to become milk cows themselves.
What happens to the males?
Some are kept for breeding.
And the rest?
They become veal calves.



As for calcium, green leafy vegetables are an excellent source of calcium. You need to spend time in the sun to get vitamin D as well as this helps in the absorption of calcium.

I suggest you read Diet for a New America, by John Robbins. It's very well sourced, and he tends to use figures from the National Cattleman and Ranchers Associations.

Answer 2

I was just trying to look for this same stuff, unfortunately I am not too good at searching, and I couldn't find anything really either... I am a vegan though, I was just trying to find opposite sides to the argument.
I know some though...
health arguments:
Lack of vitamin B12
incomplete Proteins
Lack of Iron
Soy isn't that good for you
Iodine deficiency
lack of Vitamin D
Lack of Calcium
Ethical arguments:
Critics say that more animals are killed in the harvesting of vegetables that in eating meat.
Some people actually think plants can feel pain... sorry but I find that funny.
The eggs that we buy are unfertilized and therefor would never be a baby chicken.
We are not killing the chickens or cows to get the eggs or milk.
It actually helps the cows to be milked. (I don't know if this is an actual argument, but I have heard it before)
I don't know of anymore ethical arguments against veganism.

I feel like I should refute these things that I just told you because I believe differently, but that is not what you asked for, so I am guessing that you already know the pro- vegan side of the story. But If you don't and would like a pro- vegan opinion, then feel free to e-mail me.

Answer 3

Sadly, in the commercial world of cows and chickens-both are harmed in the manufacture of milk and eggs. Cows are artificially inseminated to keep them producing milk, and are often sent to slaughter by age 3 or 4. They should live to be about 20 or so. Chickens are force molted to keep them laying eggs. I have a different spin on veganism than most do. I live a vegan lifestyle in all regards, but I enjoy the gift of milk from my pampered cow, and feed eggs from well kept chickens to my daughter. A hen discards an unfertilized egg, and it would be a waste to leave it lying on the ground. If it was fertilized, the hen would brood (sit) on it. If a cow has a calf, she has more milk than needed for that calf, and can become engorged if she is not milked. Like I said, I consider the milk a gift, and churn it into butter and make homemade cheese with vegetarian rennet. I think if you can find a local dairy or farm where you can get dairy and eggs from well cared for animals, then there is no need to go to the extreme of giving up those foods. You can still use cosmetics and cleansers that are not tested on animals. Good luck on your journey!

Answer 4

Eating animal fats and proteins has been associated with heart disease, colon and lung cancer, osteoporosis, diabetes, kidney disease, hypertension, obesity, and various other degenerative diseases. . Cows' milk has perfect quantity of fat and protein for young calves, but quite a lot for humans. But research carried out on vegans worldwide shows a diverse plant-based diet improves health and wellness and yields various positive health benefits. It offers protection against major killers like heart disease and cancer.

Answer 5

Vegans are mostly organic. They don't eat ANY products from animals. Mostly, they replace dairy and eggs with either soy, and egg substitutes.

Answer 6

Contradiction of it.

Look at your body.

You have teeth designed to eat meat.

You have bones and teeth that need calcium, that is almost totally missing from a Vegan diet.

You need protein, again very low in a vegan diet.

Look at the vegan diet - and the number of supplements most vegans have to take.

Answer 7

there are different type sof vegan some eat fish or eggs for protein some even drink milk