hell of course
and it is humerous. very.
the fact that these people are changing around what is SUPPOSED to be 100% fact is immensely amazing. as if these men are in control of altering reality or something.
if there ever was evidence to show that religion (espeically christianity/catholicism) is 100% fake....this is it.
and im sure the masses are going "oh yeah, see....god WANTS it that way. thats why they changed it"
alas, more metaphorical babies in hell. dont blame me people, this is all you!
2007-04-20 17:13:56
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answered by johnny.zondo 6
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Limbo was never a defined doctrine. It was a hypothesis. Too many people who jump to conclusions do not know the difference between church doctrine and hypotheses.(theological opinion) I believe the babies go to Heaven.
Also if a person didn't have more than a 12 year education in the Catholic faith, I have found they frequently did not know the difference between the Divine Law of the Church which can't be changed and the Human Law of the Church which can be changed, dispensed from etc. Someone made a remark that those who went to 12 years of Catholic schooling and their religion instruction stopped there did not have more than a nursery school education in the Catholic faith. I will admit I have found ex Catholics who had 12 years of education in the Catholic faith and nothing more frequently make comments reflecting that their Catholic education was on the nursery school level.
Catholics are obliged to obey the human law of the Church.The law of abstinence from meat on Friday never applied to Spain or Mexico. Mexico had a special dispensation that Spain had received.
This is an area where mature judgement can be used. Back in the days of the 3 hour fast, I had a friend and co-worker who would go to Mass after work. Sometimes while a person and have many tasks they might forget and break the fast. This friend was in the Communion line and remembered she had bought a bar of candy from the vending machine and had ate it within the 3 hours. She realized to go and sit back down would cause great scandal and that would be more serious. Priests and a Bishop said she was absolutely correct.
The Law of Fast has never been an end unto itself. If a person has broken their fast and are unaware of it and go to Communion they have done nothing wrong and they receive the grace of the sacrament. Therefore a Catholic should not say anything to a person that they see eating something within the fasting period. If that person go ahead and receives communion without realizing they had broken their fast they have done nothing wrong and they receive the grace of the sacrament. However, if you say something to them they are obligated not to receive and will not receive the grace of the sacrament.
Let's say you are invited on a day of abstinence to a friend house for a meal. The host has prepared meat her main dish and you know she has gone through a great deal of effot to prepare the meal, particularly her main entree, the meat. Even prior to Vatican 2 charity toward your host was more important than observance of the law of fast and abstinence.
Now let me give you an immature example. Something you would expect from a high schooler. Since the law applied to where you were at the time, there were people in South Texas close to the border who would cross over to Mexico so they could eat meat on a day of abstinence. That was what St. Paul was referring to when he said something about those who observe the letter of the law rather than the spirit of the law. Silly, immature high schoolers could be good about thinking of ways to get around the letter.
2007-04-20 18:07:48
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answered by Shirley T 7
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Organized religion, particularly catholicism, and their ever changing doctrines is a big joke. If I were a bereft mother or family member of a baby in limbo, I'd sue, sue, sue, baby. But what about the poor mothers who have died thinking their babies would be in limbo for eternity. They'll never know that their babies will be released. What am i saying--none of that garbage exists anyway. No heaven, afterlife. And the only limbo is a cool dance done in the Caribbean.
2007-04-20 17:25:57
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answered by Jacky Shecky 3
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Could what you meant by limbo be purgatory?
Eating meat on Fridays during Lent. I do know that years ago there was a thing that you couldn't eat meat on Fridays. I don't think it is such a horrible thing in the catholic church, because that is what the confessional is for.
Missing Sunday mass. Again, the confessional.
Some things changed in catholic church.
Of course, the meat on Fridays was changed to just during Lent. I think ppl got sick of fish all the time.
It used to be that you couldn't eat anything before receiving communion, you couldn't even drink water with your medicine. Now it is only for the hour before you receive communion.
2007-04-20 17:38:15
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answered by julie 5
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The Church says that all who die in the state of grace must go to purgatory first for a final cleansing before entering Heaven. Unless they have endured a redemptive suffering (which only God can deem enough) to bypass purgatory and go straight to Heaven. III. THE FINAL PURIFICATION, OR PURGATORY 1030 All who die in God's grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified, are indeed assured of their eternal salvation; but after death they undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven. 1031 The Church gives the name Purgatory to this final purification of the elect, which is entirely different from the punishment of the damned.606 The Church formulated her doctrine of faith on Purgatory especially at the Councils of Florence and Trent. The tradition of the Church, by reference to certain texts of Scripture, speaks of a cleansing fire:607
2016-05-20 01:05:43
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answered by Anonymous
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So how about the original sin thing eh? If non-baptized babies get into heaven, then that sort of defeats the point of original sin and baptism.
Kind of reminds me of a 10 year old massive software program. Where after 10 years it starts to become unmanageable and people start making changes to the program that contradict how the program works in other areas. Just a big ugly mess of lies that cannot be logically balanced.
2007-04-20 17:17:18
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answered by x2000 6
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CATHOLICISM is not a religion. IT's a business - a corporation who deals in making money by fooling most of it's member that they can go to heaven by constantly going to church every sunday and contributing (they call it offerings). Jesus embraces the poorest of poor. Jesus himself is poor. How come these so called pontiffs and cardinals down to the priest in every parish church are living in lavishly decorated "church" and "cathedrals". These people are hypocrites! and if there really is a heaven, I doubt if there is any pope there.....
2007-04-20 17:45:20
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answered by rovendinoalui 3
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If any mothers were bereft then they are/were fools. What kind of idiot believes this b*llsh*t? Any one who thinks that the god that they believe in would let an innocent child suffer should have enough d*mn sense to either not worship said god or better yet stop believing in such a god.
2007-04-20 18:18:20
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answered by Anonymous
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"Limbo" was never a Catholic Church doctrine.
Here is what the Catholic Church has taught and still teaches on the mater:
The Catechism of the Catholic Church:
1261 As regards children who have died without Baptism, the Church can only entrust them to the mercy of God, as she does in her funeral rites for them. Indeed, the great mercy of God who desires that all men should be saved, and Jesus' tenderness toward children which caused him to say: "Let the children come to me, do not hinder them," allow us to hope that there is a way of salvation for children who have died without Baptism. All the more urgent is the Church's call not to prevent little children coming to Christ through the gift of holy Baptism.
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2007-04-20 17:19:56
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answered by Anonymous
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I have struggled for years to try and understand the teachings of the Catholic Church. It has never made any sense to me. My biggest problem with the Catholics is, "Why do you insist on having the Lord, Jesus , still hanging on the Cross? I know it's a symbol, but I understand that "He Is Risen!"
2007-04-20 17:19:35
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answered by Boof 3
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I'm sorry but if you really believe that you are damned for eternity for eating meat on Friday then there is a problem with your religion. Any church that just willy nilly eliminates a place like limbo is crazy.
2007-04-20 17:16:54
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answered by AKA D2 3
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