So, apparently, the Catholic church has changed it's mind on what happens to unbaptized kids who die. Before, they languished in limbo. Now, they go to heaven.
So what happened to the ones who died before today? Did they go to limbo or heaven? Apparently, the church 'changed it's mind' because abortion is legal pretty much everywhere. How do you just 'change your mind' about something like that? Did god change his mind too?
The way I see it, this indicates that they're making it up as they go along. Anyone else?
2007-04-20 14:22:19 · 27 answers · asked by eri 7 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Any religion that changes its views over the years is a cult. The biggest one being the Catholic church. They go by what man says not the Bible. The pope has no say in this. They recently changed their teaching of purgatory which was a grand money maker in past centuries. Get in a Bible believing church where things dont change where it is what it is is. May God Bless You Peace out.......................
2007-04-20 14:29:52 · answer #1 · answered by powerliftingrules 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I identify as Catholic. The Wikipedia article is not accurate, BTW. Don't use it. Catholics do not perform Baptism after death. Some Mormons do, but I can't explain their doctrine on that, besides the fact that I don't agree with it. The Vatican actually put out a statement on this in the past year or two, and per that statement, babies who are not baptized "likely do not stay in limbo/pergatory nor do they go to Hell. Despite the circumstances of the baby's conception, it is still an innocent life and is not held accountable for it's parent's sins. When there is a baby that is born prematurely and dies before a Baptism can be performed, or a baby miscarries, or simply passes away for any reason before a Baptism can be done, the baby still goes to Heaven because it's a new, innocent soul. If there appears to be time, and the parents want a Baptism but there is no priest or deacon present to perform one, the parents may perform one under Catholic doctrine. But if a child is miscarried or stillborn, and there's no chance of a Baptism or last rites, the child is not condemned.
2016-05-20 00:11:38 · answer #2 · answered by ? 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The Church has pondered the suggestion of Limbo for a few hundred years and has decided that it is not a good idea. Limbo was never official doctrine.
Jesus said, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to the whole creation. He who believes and is baptized will be saved." (Mark 16:15-16)
For centuries, people have wondered about children who died before they were baptized. The Bible does not explicitly state that they will go to heaven.
Limbo was suggested as the place where unbaptized babies went when they died. This idea was never official Church doctrine and has been rejected.
The Church now says that it is not sure what happens to unbaptized babies when they die but she entrusts them to the mercy of God.
With love in Christ.
2007-04-21 06:43:44 · answer #3 · answered by imacatholic2 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Looks like the Catholic Church is following the Mormons and others who change thier doctrinal theologies.
Amazing that they really did not explain the Biblical basis for continuing the "Limbo" idea in the first place.
In 1992, they dropped Limbo from the Catholic Cathecism. Why did they wait another 15 years to make a public statement about it?
Couldn't have anything to do with people leaving the Catholic Church, could it???
2007-04-20 14:28:23 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
I don't think there is a church or denomination out there that hasn't changed their mind over the years. The bottom line is that no one knows exactly what is happening to them because it is not written in any Bible. We can all guess and then agree later that it was not a good guess and in doing so change our minds. This is not irreligious, but rather human. And no I'm not catholic, just forgiven in Jesus name and I know that in the way we judge others we will be judged according to Matthew 7:1-2. So I don't judge Catholics because there is not a denomination out there that is prefect. How do you see it?
Alan Ballou www.thehealingbook.com
2007-04-20 14:32:10 · answer #5 · answered by alanpballou 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
as a former catholic, i have been saying the same thing about the catholic church for years. I came to realize that the catholic church makes up almost everything as it goes along.
there is no where in the bible that says there is a limbo or ever was. baptism was meant for adults, not infants. it is a lovely ceremony to introduce a baby into the christian faith, but thats it. it does NOT remove original sin. the only way God has provided a means for us to be free from original sin and all our sins, is to believe in His Son, Jesus Christ. That is called salvation. the catholics dont get it. they need to study the WORD OF GOD. there is no pope, the blessed virgin mary died like everyone else, confession to a man behind a screen is not in the bible, etc. etc. Jesus said that no man comes to the Father EXCEPT through Him. so there ya go. Christianity made simple by our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ. AMEN and AMEN
2007-04-20 14:30:20 · answer #6 · answered by little bobby 2 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Indeed, they cannot have it both ways. If an aborted fetus goes to heaven no doubt, but a fetus born has half a chance of going to hell, then we aren't doing the fetus any favors making them be born. Abort them all, and they all go to heaven.
They will eventually realize this, and return to the idea of limbo.
By the way, lest we all get confused, the overwhelming number of abortions occur naturally. I'm sure 99.99% or more. My wife and I had three on the way to getting a child to term. Hence, no increase or decrease in the rate of medical abortions will materially change the number of aborted fetuses the Catholic church has to think about.
2007-04-22 09:50:21 · answer #7 · answered by Jeffrey K 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Ecclesiastes 9:5 & 6 "For the living know that they will die but the dead know not anything neither have they any more reward for even their memories have perished." Acts 2:34 "For David himself has not ascended into heaven" (king David) 1 Thessalonians 4:16 & 17 " For the lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, then the Dead in Christ will rise first then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together WITH them to meet the Lord in the air..."
2007-04-20 14:29:57 · answer #8 · answered by I-o-d-tiger 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
the word Limbo is not in the Bible,so there is no Limbo.... it u believe in Jesus and its says in the Bible that after he was crucified he went to hell the 3 days and brought back the keys to Heaven and Hell (the grave),before he was on the cross there was just a gulf between the 2, as in the OT when the rich man could looked up in heaven and seen the begger and ask for just a drop of water and to send word to his brothers that there was a hell, after the 3 days Jesus arose from the dead and and went to his father in Heaven, and the theif that was on the cross with Jesus, that was forgiven, Jesus also said to him that he would be in paridice that day.GODS WORDS NEVER CHANGE man changes words and in the last part of the Rev. thats not so good to change the words.
2007-04-20 14:53:40 · answer #9 · answered by jazzy 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The Catholic church is merely doing at the institutional level what its followers do every day at the individual level.
One of my favorite political bloggers, Andrew Sullivan, is gay and a devout Catholic. He's never been able to explain why he sticks with a church whose leaders consider him either disordered or sinful (depending on whom you ask and what day of the week it is) and whose scripture teaches that those like him must be killed.
I say he's just making it up for himself -- picking and choosing which parts of the doctrine will apply for him, and ignoring the rest. All believers do that, every day. But there's no way to make them see that this is what they're doing.
2007-04-20 14:32:25 · answer #10 · answered by ? 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋