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A girl on my bus was reading the bible, and I asked her what she was reading. So she told me, and I said that I believe in evolution not god. She literaly erupted with questions like "THEN WHEN DO MONKEYS COME FROM?" and "THEN WHERE DOES WATER COME FROM?!" and all I could say was like "Uhh, well, I-" and she interrupts me with more questions! I wasn't even trying to start and arguement, and now she's all mad at me. What's her problem?

2007-04-20 13:29:56 · 22 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Well, you started it really. And you should have just answered her questions. That would have helped.

I always just engage them in a discussion of their beliefs instead. They react better to that. And that way they actually listen to what you have to say.

2007-04-20 13:34:00 · answer #1 · answered by eri 7 · 1 0

Well, I will get some nasty resonce to this, but here goes:

Most religions are made by men to control the mass. In earlier days you would have trouble with people stealing, killing, having sex with whoever they felt like and so on.

This, of course, led to all kinds of trouble, so something had to be done.

The need to belive there is "something greater" than humans seems to be a common feeling within most humans. It's quite easy to belive in a god of some sorts because then you know that someone is taking care of things and don't need to worry too much yourselve.

When religion is introduced, it is usually followed by some rules about what to do and what not to do. Also, there is mention about what happens if you do not obey the rules. Maybe you will go to hell, maybe you will be born again as a pig. Either way - it looks like it's better to follow the rules.

This may all seem very nice, but doesn't explain the heat of the christians.

First of all, keep in mind that similar explanation applies to some other religions too, so don't judge the too hard.

As soon as before the year 1000, kings all around Europe had decided they were the link between god and people. It was said that god was the king of kings and therefore, the kings would be god's officials.

So, kings would own the churches and the people would pay tax (in the viking era it was a tenth of their earnings/ownings) to the church, as ordered by the kings. This, of course, was a way for the kings to get more money from the people. A small part of the money was used to build and decorate churches (wich is why so many churches in Europe look so nice), so that people could see how great god was.

The rest of the money went to the king, who would spend it as he pleased, mostly in keeping his army supplied and on the move.

And that is another point. Every religion has a built-in system to increase the numbers of followers. Look at the catholic thinking about birth-controls. Why would god want to ban birth-controls? It's just a way of producing more catholics, to increase the numbers of followers, and get more tax-payers.

The armies were also used to convert people from other religions. Around the year 1000 Icelanders were asked, by the Norweagan king, who then ruled Iceland, to convert to Christianity.

The Icelander refused, being quite happily the followers of Nordic Mythology. The king then ordered his armies to go to Iceland and kill everyone who refused to become a christian.

With a sword by your throat, the decision to convert seemed the smart thing to do.

So Iceland became christian overnight, and started to pay more tax to the Norwegean king.

This has happened all over the world, in many religions. Christians have slaughtered millions of people in the name of their religion, mostly because their leaders wanted too.

People who are deeply christian and become offensive and violent about their religion are usually those who have wandered off the trail in the past but found their way back through the simple rules offered by religion, and the belive that someone greater than themselves is responcible.

The AA offers the explanation that alchoholism is a sickness and that god will take care off you if you let him.

This way, all responcibility is taken away from you and put on god. That way, you don't have to feel bad for being the way you are - you've been told that you can't help it, but somebody else will make it good.

This, combined with the fear of the evil, largely explains the hostility of christians.

They fear that everyone who does not follow the god they do, is in fact evil. Not only will that person burn in hell, but also will he try force his ways upon them, therefore making them burn in hell too.

The last explanation is the misinterpriting of the bible.

You can almost read what you want from that book, but let's look at the intolarance of the christians, backed up by the bible.

If you read "no mane should lay down with another man, like he was a woman" you could say that it's not nice to trick people to think you're a woman if you aren't.

If you don't like homosexuals, you could also say that the text means that you shouldn't be a homosexual.

People are always afraid of what they don't know - so if you're not gay, you fear them. So it becomes easy to hate them under the protection that you read it in the bible.

In the bible it also says that if a child speaks back to it's parents, it should be dragged to the city gates and stoned to death. Funny how we don't see that practised any more.

Hope this explains something. I don't have time to write more.

2007-04-20 13:57:51 · answer #2 · answered by Georgina Elin 2 · 0 0

She is young. And so are you. You both over reacted. Give her a bit of time.
You did come on a bit strong. "I believe in evolution not god." That sounds like a challenge to me, but then I wasn't there. Could be she took it that way, whether you meant her to or not.
Maybe you could compromise and say "well, I believe in evolution, but that doesn't rule out the possibility of a Creator", which is at least, true. Why make it a contest between your science and her God? One is physical, the other is spiritual, it is like comparing potatoes to grapes.
But neither of you are really to be blamed. You are only parroting what the adults around you are feeding your developing minds.
The fault is ours.
May God have mercy on us all.

2007-04-20 13:54:33 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I am sorry to hear about your experience. Not all Christians are like that. Most of us have an open mind. After all, it is the only way to open a discussion that allows us to witness. Again I am sorry about your experience. I think as Christians we get a lot of flack for our beliefs due to the lack of physical evidence. She may have just had it with non believers inability to comprehend the Spiritual nature of God. But that is the beauty of it. Our Faith is very strong and no one can deny us that. Good luck next time!

2007-04-20 13:41:17 · answer #4 · answered by Zizi 3 · 0 0

i'm not sure you're suitable approximately your end that Christians continuously lose the controversy. and actually would not it rely on what the definition of a Christian is? And why is it which you won't be able to understand the version between achievement of prophecy and what a demonstration is? i'm not sure I understand the place you're coming from might desire to you state your non secular association if any? Warren _ heavily? Come now what could you have us quote to defend our faith? Encyclopedia Britannica? Are you quite that stupid?

2016-12-20 20:15:30 · answer #5 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Your friend although well intentioned was over eager. You presented a challenge to which she was not prepared. Her lack of knowledge embarrassed her.
The bible has many facets that are not well understood even by people who attempt to use it everyday.
There are popular opinions that are totally wrong, far to much to explain here.
Instead, I suggest you try this website, look through the index and if you want further help you can write to us and get someone to come to your home and study with you at absolutely no charge.

2007-04-20 13:44:37 · answer #6 · answered by Wisdom 6 · 0 0

She did approach it wrong, but as Christians or anyone who does not believe in evolution it can get kind of sticky when someone says they believe in evolution because then they can argue that you then do not believe in Jesus Christ. That being said, I don't believe as Christians we should be negative or "Bible" beaters and beat things into non-believers. We are simply to speak the truth and let you consider it and ponder it on your own time if you wish. Because when we come at you like that, and overwhelming the chances of you listening and taking time to take in the truth is going to be a hard sell to say the least. But also understand that Jesus Christ is literally the Father of us all, and He is our Father, like your earthly father we are protective of Him (although He needs no protection from us) but still we feel that way. Like if someone sat next to you and told you your father was this or that or that they thought this or that of him (of course this is believing you have a good opinion and relationship with your natural father) would you not get offended? Would you not defend him? You would not just sit there and let anyone take your father's name in vain or speak falseness about him or anything right? So therefore, that's why we feel so strongly about Our Father, Jesus Christ. But again, she was wrong in reacting that way but the basis of her reaction I believe stemmed from that. We can all throw but what about this or that at each other on both sides of the argument. But, honestly I wouldn't want to be wrong on this one. Why take a chance that you don't need to take. The information and truth are there for you to read and study it's up to you to make the choice if you wish. That's what faith is we don't see it necessarily, but even when they did see it, in Biblical times (i.e. the splitting of the Red Sea, water coming from a rock in the desert, Jesus' Resurrection) it was still hard for many to believe and so now generations later it's even harder. Again, she is wrong to have reacted that way and also to still be angry at you, no need for more negativity in the world. But some people do get truly angry and defensive with religion.

2007-04-20 13:50:01 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

We don't ALWAYS debate over religion. It says in the Bible we should try to lead non-Christians to God, and that's what we're doing. But some go over-board..and that's not nice either. There's a limit to everything.

2007-04-20 13:35:25 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

religious beliefs are like that-- opinions solely based on ancient texts and unfortunately many can not accept that.
I say live and let live-if she is behaving this way ask her what would Jesus do--get mad or get over it?
People used to believe that world was flat and the earth was the center of the universe too.
There are many mysteries out there, do not let an insecure clone get you down.
There is no PROOF either way only theory and beliefs....so find your own.

2007-04-20 13:40:37 · answer #9 · answered by rwl_is_taken 5 · 0 0

She is reacting defensively by attempting to reaffirm her own beliefs (and fight off her own doubts). If someone is secure and confident in their own beliefs they don't need to aggressively attempt to change others beliefs. You will find that when you get older, people will react in the same way when you talk about politics. The funny thing is, I don't recall Jesus reacting that way in the Bible. He simply put his beliefs out in the open and welcomed those who chose to believe. A good example that so many faith followers tend to forget.

2007-04-20 13:39:43 · answer #10 · answered by jimkirktrek 2 · 1 0

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