It's crap.
2007-04-20 08:46:11
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answered by Some Dude 4
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I scanned the article-what a surprise. Some moron thinks society as a whole is going to forget that murdering people has consequences. Same with doing drugs, pre-marital sex, etc. Bad decisions involve bad consequences a person suffers while they are alive. Whatever they believe. BTW, how are our moral's worse now than those who were involved in the Crusades or the Inquisition?
I do want to point out, the ancient Egyptians survived quite well w/o the Christian version of a God. If we take out the monotheistic idea of Judaism and Islam you'll find that there have always been, and will always be societies that function without that belief. Oh. I would like to also point out that both prostitution and marijuana are legal in Sweden, I don't know what the countrys' main religion is, if any, but they seem to be doing just fine.
2007-04-20 09:02:25
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answered by strpenta 7
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This article is alarmist, unsupported by data of any kind, and is written with obvious motive toward convincing poorly educated, but very religious people that every bad thing they see on the news is the result of ungodliness, despite the vast majority of the United States and the world being "godly." Further, the writer is a bad theologian, and a bad historian. He is a bad theologian for assuming that before the Abrahamic religions there was no morality. This is of course absolute nonsense. Religions grow to reflect the morality of the culture they're in. They do not create it.
He is a bad historian for assuming that after the rise of Christianity in Europe things got immediately better. After all, people then were perhaps at their godliest. The only problem is that this is not true. Murders, sexual promiscuity, persecution, plagues, wasteful government spending and church corruption all occurred with great frequency among these godly people.
Honestly, I think that if people lost faith in the Christian god on a wide scale, there would be a tremendous cultural shift, but very little noticeable change in human activity. There would still be charities, orphanages, community service organizations, and deeply devout spiritual people, along with corruption, abuse, and immorality. All these things existed before Christianity, and all of them will exist afterwords. Don't go all anti-intellectual because this guy's article has you convinced there is a conspiracy among scholars to destroy God. The very notion is patently ridiculous.
2007-04-20 09:11:06
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answered by Lao Pu 4
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Why, if everyone stopped believing in God, then God might actually become angry enough to do something about it. Sure, he ignored the Crusades, the witch burnings, the Nazi Holocausts and miscellaneous other genocides and massacres, but those were just people. If nobody believed in God, his life would be meaninless, so he's bound to bring about something nasty. Life could definitely-- oh, wait, there may be a flaw in my logic...
Williams' self-serving little piece was entertaining, in a desperate sort of way. Point by point, he tics off the disasterous consequences of godless atheism, each more hilarious and hypocritical than the last.
Immorality? The "moral" freedom of people without a code is not "whatever I want" but "whatever I can get away with". Fine-tuned, it negotiates the nebulous boundary between self-interest, other interest and common interest, eventually arriving at the Golden Rule. It is pragmatically flexible, teaching as it goes, determining what is good or bad by ongoing experience in a world of other people and other things. In contrast, the freedom of a person with a moral code is simply bound to "whatever isn't on the list". It is ludicrous to think that a list of good and evil deeds can be drawn up and stand for all times and cultures. And even if it were "perfect", not every possible moral situation or circumstance can be on the list. Some "moral" people find ways to be technically observant while breaking the spirit of the rule, and there are times when scrupulous observance can actually be cruel in its unbending rigor. Secular laws are amended constantly. But slap God's face on a rule and somehow it is immune from development?
Answers? "God did it," isn't an answer, it's an evasion. How many times do people bump up against an incomprehensible, purposeless event and hear the words, "God's ways are mysterious"? Atheists ignore the warning that "some things are beyond our understanding" and go about trying to figure out the inexplicable. And they succeed more often because the theist knows better than to try.
Hope? Most people are too busy trying to survive to worry about the "purpose" of life. It's not godlessness that drives despair, it's the realization that governments oppress, marketeers manipulate, pundits lie, and the poor and powerless get squashed solely for the benefit of their opposites. Forget the afterlife. They would settle for a few moments of kind relief and a chance of their own to make the world better. When a rich person suicides, it's often out of self-pity. When a poor person suicides, it's often due to of a lack of effective options.
Loneliness? The obvious goal of Western capitalism has been to isolate people, sell self-sufficiency to them and dehumanize anyone outside the prime marketing demographic, whether in the commercial, political, or even the spiritual spheres. And this all seems to have the full faith and support of too many religious leaders. Salvation becomes personal. YOU just have to accept Christ as your PERSONAL savior. Megachurches are built like concert halls, chairs have armrests to preserve individual space. Architecture and sormon are designed for maximum entertainment and zero doctrine or social challenge. The only requirement is regular deposits to the collection plate. You can wave at a familiar face, but you may never learn their name.
The ONLY thing God adds to the world is an authority figure for people who refuse to grow up and accept responsibility for their world and their fellow citizens. Such people don't trust other people to come up with any useful ideas (possibly because they are untrustworthy themselves) and insist on respect for a hierarchy of authority. Unfortunately, they often tend to accept anyone in a uniform, clerical robe or power suit. People who aren't expecting "Dad" to straighten everything out are more likely to already be at work on the problems and the puzzles, figuring out how to make life work better, instead of how to live "right".
2007-04-20 10:14:32
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answered by skepsis 7
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The article was good; thank you for directing me to it.
The world is already becoming the godless society that humanists want. But obviously, there is no humanity in the humanist doctrine. It is all for self satisfaction.
God's ways are all about how to love thy neighbor, and the self will be cared for by our neighbors.
God said these last days would be like this. So, not to worry, God will restore order very soon -- of course, the ungodly will rebel and not enjoy the correction, but the godly can look foreward to the peace and happiness that God brings.
2007-04-20 09:43:28
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answered by BC 6
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Look at the European countries that are pretty much atheist. they have better education, and far less crime. The article you posted was written by a church so of course they're going to be against a world without god. Do some more research and you'll see for yourself that most crime is related to religion, and most people commiting crimes are religious.
and to Patrone07...you said
as the world becomes more secular, it is getting worse. Since prayer was outlawed in public schools, school shootings have skyrcocketed, 9/11, katrina, VTECH, ....Wake up world!
So are you saying that prayer taken out of school caused 9/11 and katrina?? So your kind god killed all those innocent people because he was pissed that there isn't public prayer in a public school? You do realize that most of these school shootings are coming from christian shooters right?
2007-04-20 08:56:09
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answered by photogrl262000 5
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If you are a believer, and derive your sense of safety from the belief that there is a God, then I'd imagine that a world without God is potentially a scary, lonely place. Those of us who are not believers have found other ways to find meaning and purpose in our lives, and most of us don't look at the world that way.
2007-04-20 08:58:00
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answered by Let Me Think 6
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The article is nonsense. Reading it made my eyes bleed from the typical Xian slant to everything.
the only heaven that can ever be is a world where no one believes in any gods. A world of reality is truly paradise.
2007-04-20 09:06:33
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answered by Anonymous
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The world would still be horrible. Just one fewer thing to blame the problems on. And far less hope in the world.
2007-04-20 10:06:06
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answered by Rosalind S 4
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morality is the ONLY thing that makes us human, animals dont have right or wrong, they dont have morals. its only blessed by God.
you could see how animals give birth but many animals tend to eat their own male cubs, while humans live and look out for each other, and still you say there is no God that planned a system for everything.........
2007-04-20 09:14:19
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answered by kainat - 2
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The world would be great without the man made god.
2007-04-20 08:47:28
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answered by Vacant 2
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