Let me try this again.....Why do people always say if God, why not Allah?

Question

why not the Wiccan goddess, or the Pagan pantheon? Is it because Muslims are so much more aggressive about their religion?
And what do we learn from this?
I am not suggesting that Christians begin beheading anyone that doesn't agree with us (which does seem to be a tad extreme)...
But, would it be a good idea if Christians quit cowering in a corner every time someone threatens a law suit? Why are we so afraid to stand up for OUR Constitutional Rights? Why do we let people tell our kids that they can't pray, can't sing, can't wear their Christian slogans, can't carry their Bibles, etc, ad nauseam?
When one of our kids bravely flys in the face of her instructions to leave God out of her valedictorian speech, WHY do we calmly sit by and let HER Constitutional Rights be violated? Doesn't she have the right to Free Speech?
Christians, if we don't quit being so wishy washy about our faith, we can expect our grandchildren to have to hide in a basement to worship at all. WAKE UP!!

Answer 1

You said it much better than I. I'm with you 100% and hope it will catch on. We really need to take the ACLU to court and sue the stuffings out of them for violating OUR rights. :-(

Answer 2

The reason people say that is because their faiths, religions, beliefs, gods, etc. are just as valid as yours is. Just as valid.

If we allow one god into the schools, we must allow all of them. It has nothing to do with people being more aggressive about their faith. It has to do with fairness and the law.

And when, exactly, did anyone tell your kids that they could not pray, sing, wear a shirt or carry a bible?

The student in question had every right to mention God in her speech. She knew that she could mention and thank her god. She also knew that she could not attempt to proselytize. She knew that she did not have the right to do was turn her graduation ceremony into a church service. She was quite immature in that regard. She knows the difference and choice to defy the school regulations.

Would you be advocating free speech for a Muslim student who did the same thing? If not, then it's not really a free speech issue, is it?

Answer 3

Now tell me you wouldn't kick and scream and cry and complain and boycott and be up in arms if a valedictorian thanked Lucifer in her valedictorian speech.

Would you or wouldn't you be upset, as a Christian, by that?

If you would complain about that (and think it shouldn't be allowed)- then you're a hypocrite and have no business pretending to be pro constitutional rights because at that point you think they only apply to Christians - which is, unfortunately, how many Christians think.

If you wouldn't and you would defend her right to thank Lucifer as much as defending a person's right to thank God, then I apologize for making an assumption.

Not to mention - why do Pagans have to worship in remote or hidden places out of public view? It goes both ways, wouldn't you agree?

Answer 4

Fire announces its self there is no need to tell, it shows its self on a way that all you can do is either you stay far away from it or come close to warm your self so, also those who are filled with the Holy Spirit being a new creation those that have renewed their minds knowing who they are and what they become they stand and walk in the glory of the living God for they are in the full awareness of what they have received in there Lord Jesus Christ we have not received the Spirit of fair but the Holy spirit of boldness and of a sound mind .faith without works is dead faith we are not talking about the the faith of this world but faith that we have of God. we can get angry because of those who don't speak out their faith but please we can say we are Christians but if we start using it as a title it is nothing just as if we would stand in a garage wont make us car so it is if we call our self's Christians don't make us one.

Answer 5

Your opening assertion appears to question why we don't accept other religions.

Your next assertion appears to question why Christians do not stand up for their rights in expressing their religion.

They can express their religion; however, as stated above, there is a time and place for everything. However, expressiing religious preference at a school event is not protected speech.

There are time, place and manner restrictions the governement can place on such speech.

Further, the school can restrict certain speech if it serves a valid pedigogical interest (Supreme Court language).

Thus, feel free to express yourself and your religion, at the appropriate time and places.

Answer 6

In Spanish, the phrase for "I hope so" is derived from Muslim prayers that were overheard during the time the Iberian peninsula was occupied. "Ojala" - the "J" pronounced like an "H", or "O Allah"... But, Allah is not a different god than the Christian God, or the Hebraic Yahweh. They are one and the same. It may even be the same as the Taoist understanding of "All That Is", or the First People's "Great Spirit", neither of which are meant as personifications.
It may be that we all essentially believe in the same thing.
We can all coexist.

Answer 7

The right of free speech does not apply in public schools, just like it doesn't apply in private businesses or workplaces. There are some cases in which speech must be restricted for the good of the people or for the government to do its job - such is the case with public schools (or confidential info or state secrets or in a court room).

And what you fail to realize is that, by that one girl talking about God in her speech, the rights of everyone in the school who doesn't believe in God are stifled.

There is a give and take with rights. Your rights cannot take away my rights.

And of course you are exaggerating the tiny bit of resistance Christianity had begun to receive. Wake up is right.

Answer 8

Are we talkin about standing up to Muslims? I thought you guys over there had freedom of choice can't you praise your god who ever he/she is?

If the church are cowering at the mention of a court case it usually means they've been naughty


I'm with the Frog

Answer 9

If we don't reel the fundamentalists in...everyone who does not believe like they do will be banished to an island...

Fundamentalists want to make the world them...and if you don't agree with their ideology, they label you as un-Christian...they are dangerous...

But, they rule our world...what can we do in this onslaught of the holier than thou people who are nothing more than the anti-Christ in sheeps clothing. We must make take a stand and make the world a more accepting, tolerant place...

Live and let live...fundamentliasts must be allowed to worship their God...but, everyone else must be allowed to worship theirs too...if they want to mention god's name at a graduation speech, they should be allowed...but if someone wants to mention Buddah's name at a graduation speech, or some wiccan goddess' name, they should be allowed too...the world has to be big enough for all points of views...

So, fundies, quit trying to silience those that don't believe as you do.

Answer 10

I myself prefer "if Jehovah" God is just a title, like 'eliohim' which is Hebrew for God. Jehovah is God's name, and there is historical proof of that fact. I have seen nothing telling me that Allah is God's name.

Answer 11

If you are a Christian, that's perfectly fine. Just keep it to yourself, like the rest of us have to about our thoughts.

Doesn't mean you can't express your opinion. But I'm not going to sue someone for not agreeing with me.