Can I just set the record straight?

Question

Evolution = the process by which species adapt to their environment for continued survival.

Abiogenesis = Where it all came from.

It might not make sense at first glance, but think about it. One has nothing to do with the other.

If we're debating about the nutritional value of a slice of pie on a plate in front of us, you don't win the argument by pointing out that I don't have an answer for 'Who made the pie?'

Not an invalid question by any stretch of the imagination, but certainly irrelevant.

Answer 1

When you count numbers, Do you start from 12889 or 0?

Answer 2

I agree with your argument but not your definitions. Also, you're point is not very clear.

Evolution: Development, where traits that improve on the chances of survival become more probable moving thru successive generations (because they're the ones that live long enough to reproduce), thus altering the species over time. Note: adapting is the effect, NOT the cause; your definition suggests otherwise

Abiogenesis: The creation of life out of non-life.

Point: Knowing how things progress doesn't help explain how they start. This doesn't answer how the first life began.

Similar argument: Knowing how the universe proceeds (by learning the laws of physics, say) doesn't explain how the Big Bang created something out of nothing.

But I don't know if the way to officially "set the record straight" is by posting it as a question on Yahoo Answers. Whatever floats your boat.

Answer 3

But the debate isn't about the nutritional value of the pie, it's about how the pie came to be in the first place. Most Christians don't deny that evolution happens, rather they deny that it can account for origin of all species. As for abiogenesis, it exists in theory only.

Answer 4

It is relevant because evolution is multifaceted. While it is about adaptation to the environment, it's also about the long term effect of these adaptations that can, over time. create a new species. This is the fundamental argument that creations argue when they claim we are god's creation. You have removed the relevance by intentionally limiting the definition.

Answer 5

It is my reasoning that adaptation and evolution are two different things. Evolution requires a change in DNA in which there is a species change, where adaptation is making an adjustment without a change in species. Human are very adaptable, but this is not evidence of their evolution.

Answer 6

There are two types of evolution. The one you mention is micro evolution, how a species adapts to its environment.

Abiogenesis means "life from nonlife". Macro evolution is one specie becoming another

Answer 7

Actually, abiogenesis and evolution aren't that separate. It started with simple molecules that gained the ability to replicate themselves and then grew from there. Your point is a good one though. People just like this "God of the Gaps" idea.

Answer 8

Yes! An excellent point! I've been trying to tell people this for years! Unfortunately, it's not a question. Take it to Yahoo Explanations or something. You phail.

Answer 9

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Answer 10

*WHOOOOOOOSH* Did you hear that? That was the sound of this question going over the heads of all the fundies here. They'll be asking the same crap about "Athiest (sic), if you don't believe in God where do you believe matter came from?" in about 10 minutes.

Answer 11

If Osama Bin Laden made the pie, it might not be very nutritious.

Don't eat unknown pies. The threat level on pastries is currently "Orange."