2007-04-20 06:29:05 · 18 answers · asked by fra59e 4 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Does anyone know what he's referring to?
Does it seem a big deal in your beliefs?
Would you schism over filioque?
2007-04-20 06:32:18 · answer #1 · answered by Dave P 7 · 0⤊ 2⤋
This Spirit is not only the Spirit of God the Father, for the Bible also calls it the "Spirit of Christ" (Romans 8:9; Philippians 1:19). By either name, it is the same Spirit, as there is only one Spirit (1 Corinthians 12:13; Ephesians 4:4). The Father imparts the same Spirit to true Christians through Christ (John 14:26; 15:26; Titus 3:5-6), leading and enabling them to be His children and "partakers of the divine nature" (Romans 8:14; 2 Peter 1:4).
In contrast to God the Father and Jesus Christ, who are consistently compared to human beings in Their form and shape, the Holy Spirit is consistently represented, by various symbols and manifestations, in a completely different manner—such as wind (Acts 2:2), fire (verse 3), water (John 4:14; 7:37-39), oil (Psalm 45:7; compare Acts 10:38; Matthew 25:1-10), a dove (Matthew 3:16) and an "earnest," or down payment, on eternal life (2 Corinthians 1:22; 5:5; Ephesians 1:13-14, KJV). These depictions are difficult to understand, to say the least, if the Holy Spirit is a person.
In Matthew 1:20 we find further evidence that the Holy Spirit is not a distinct entity, but God's divine power. Here we read that Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit. However, Jesus continually prayed to and addressed God the Father as His Father and not the Holy Spirit (Matthew 10:32-33; 11:25-27; 12:50). He never represented the Holy Spirit as His Father. Clearly, the Holy Spirit was the agency or power through which the Father begot Jesus as His Son.
2007-04-20 06:44:13 · answer #2 · answered by TIAT 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
This is known as the filioque clause and was the cause of the split of the church into the East and West. East (Orthodox Church) believes that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father only where as the West from both the Father and the Son, as in ancient creeds. My view is that he proceeds from both the Father and the Son, as this is the view of scripture. E.g at Jesus' baptism God sent a dove (the Holy Spirit) as a sign of 'authorising' and anointing Jesus' ministry. Jesus said that he would send us another, advocate, counselor etc, all references to the Holy Spirit. Note all three persons of the God head are co-equal, co-existent and co-powerful. Their differences are in role and function not status. To use an analogy, look at water, it can be water, ice, or steam. All three have different functions but are of the same substance.
2007-04-20 06:41:26 · answer #3 · answered by purplerain 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Jesus said they both would abide. You can't have one without the other because there is only one. The Christ that was in Jesus was the Holy Spirit which was the Eternal God.
He could not pour Himself out in spirit while manifest in the flesh; for He had already poured Himself out to be born in a manger; made in the likeness of sinfull flesh.
The word proceed tends to cloud what is really taking place. God is a spirit. He is the source of every good and perfect gift. He is the gift as well as the giver.
If you think of proceed, not as issuing something or passing out candy, as personal action you get closer. When you proceed to go to work your entire being is engaged.
Jehovah was the word of eternal life manifest in the law and prophets. Jesus was the manifestation of the eternal word in flesh, according to promise. The Holy Spirit is the seal of the eternal word for this age. These three manifestations flow out of one eternal word and not three persons.
2007-04-20 07:12:58 · answer #4 · answered by Tommy 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Both the Father and the Son.
2007-04-20 06:32:18 · answer #5 · answered by WC 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
I think the Father because he is the Father of ALL spirits! and if Jesus is His Son then the Holy Ghost too.
John 15: 26
26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you FROM the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which PROCEEDETH from the Father, he shall testify of me
2007-04-20 06:56:09 · answer #6 · answered by Dragonik 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
There is only One God, The Father... The Holy Ghost is one of the forms God uses to interact with His people. The Holy Ghost IS God
2007-04-20 06:33:29 · answer #7 · answered by idahomike2 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
This was defined properly at the council of Nicea,the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son.
2007-04-20 06:33:49 · answer #8 · answered by Sentinel 7 · 1⤊ 3⤋
You know. That's a good question. I think the Father sends it in the name of the Son.
"But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you." (John 14:26)
2007-04-20 06:33:50 · answer #9 · answered by Arthurpod 4 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Eastern Orthodox say just the Father.
Roman Catholics and Protestants say the Father and Son.
2007-04-20 06:34:25 · answer #10 · answered by Aspurtaime Dog Sneeze 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋
God is a Trinity - there is God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.
2007-04-27 23:16:24 · answer #11 · answered by scorp5543 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋