Vegans please explain ( read my detaials fully before answering)?

Question

i have researched many reasons why i can understand for health reasons or some may just simply not like meat. i am confused on the animal rights issue though. I have seen and watche the peta vid on mass producing farms it makes me sick.

for example i live in germany and here we still have the old farming methods and the animals are taken well care of and killed properly.

however i am an american born and raised i am fully aware that our meat is mass produced but there are famers markets and what not to purchace meat its a lil moore expensive but u know the animal was well taken care of before and its healther meat.

the question is i know that alot of vegans are vegitarians because of the mass procucing meat markets tourching the animals but i dont see it as a legitmate excuese to be vegan then so if thoes out there could buy humanly killed meat would you still be vegitarian

Answer 1

No matter how well the animal was taken care of or not, he or she is still killed in the end. Think about it this way, what if I was to confine you for a year? You are well treated, you have food, water and a few things to do. Then one day I come in scoop you up, bring you outside and throw you into a truck with a bunch of other people. You are scared now, somehow the past year of being pampered still doesn't make up for even this little bit of torment. The truck stops and you are roughly tossed onto the ground were you are told to form a line and follow the others in front of you. As you walk into this building single file people are waiting their turn to enter a door you can see up ahead. When it's your turn you walk in and are quickly strung up by your legs upside down. To add to the immense terror you already feel at this point, a man with blood stained clothes turns around and begins approaching you with a knife in his right hand. With an emotionless expression on his face he proceeds to sever your windpipe and the arteries of your neck despite your screams of protest. It’s like he didn’t even hear you. As your drown in your own blood, gasping for breath, I think we can both agree that right now it makes no difference how you were treated before you were cut open. You will still be dead in a moment, and you will die terrified and tortured.

I don't think animals should be killed for human needs, anymore than I think people should be killed for human needs. Thats why I'm Vegan.

Answer 2

I think people just don't want to read through the lengthy questions.. What you said about kids at school - yep.. The people here on Yahoo Answers that do that are those kids that failed in school because they just didn't want to read the whole thing!!!! If people really were here to answer and help, they'd read through the entire question.. Some people really do have good questions and try to explain everything well, and then you get those jerks that just say a few words to them and think that's going to help them.. Or those people that say "so what's the point?" or "what's the question?" If you had bothered to read through the whole thing, then you'd know what the question was!!!!!!!

Answer 3

I'd absolutely still be vegan. No matter how nicely you might treat an animal you plan to slaughter it doesn't take away the pain of it's death.
And I don't believe there is a way they can be "properly killed"
Taking the life of another living, breathing, feeling creature, is in no way "proper"
Animals have they ability to feel love, pain and fear just like we do. And whether you choose to see it it or not, just like our domestic pets. Why do you think they struggle till their last breath? They have the desire to live and we should not have the right to deny them that just because of our taste buds.
We have no nutritional requirements for the flesh of these animals either - we can get plenty of protein with a plant based diet. No one has to die for us to have a healthy and satisfying life and it should be that simple. If no one has to die but we choose to kill them anyway it isn't about survival or food chains or any of that crap it is about selfish cruelty.
And just because you pay someone a little extra to be nice to a cow before they kill it doesn't make you any better than someone who pays the assassin on the cheap.

Answer 4

So, because *you* don't see it as a "legitimate excuse", it's not a valid one?

The point is that an animal's life is taken for the pleasure of a human. Meat is not necessary - is it right to expect an animal to give up it's life so that a human can have 15 minutes of pleasure?

Even family farms have horrible cruelty. I don't exactly think it's humane to slit a cow's throat and wait for it to die. I don't exactly think it's humane for each cow in line to watch this. You get the idea.

Answer 5

Even humanely killing is killing and still cruel at the end of the day. If tribes of people that ate other humans were allowed to humanely euthanise their 'Long Pig' would it be less gruesome?
As well as liking animals, I hate the taste of meat also .
Even if an animal had the most pampered life as a beloved friend I still wouldn't want to eat it. That is why we are vegetarians and vegans!

Answer 6

Absolutely NOT!!! I was actually raised on a farm. My Dad treated his cattle like pets but he still killed and ate them!! Even at the age of 11 I thought that it was so horrible that a living, breathing, feeling animal would be killed just to suit someone's taste. Because humans do not need meat to live!!!! would you be able to kill the animal yourself after raising it for a couple of years? or would you kill and eat your dog/cat/whatever pet you own? If so then hey eat away.

Answer 7

Even if the animal was well taken care of it was still killed for meat,which is not necessary.I wouldn't want an animal killed just so I can have a hamburger.I can live easily without meat.I just don't see meat as a necessity,and I don't agree with killing an animal for a hamburger,even if it was well treated.

Answer 8

As a dedicated carnivore I'd like to provide an alternate view.

I do not want my food animals to be deliberately mistreated, but let's face it they are food. They are born and raised for the purpose of eating them. You could make a case that these animals would never have been alive at all if not for someone wanting to eat them. But as long as the animal's life is free from pain, fine by me.

When people start comparing family pets to livestock I just roll my eyes. It's not a comparable situation. Sure, if you the average person were asked to raise a pig in their home and then slaughter it themselves they probably wouldn't. But if you asked that person to raise 2000 hogs and deliver them to a slaughter house when they're mature and get a big cheque for it? Well, that changes things.

I have no objections to somebody choosing to be a vegetarian, that's their decision. However, understand that the ability to have a balanced, meat free diet is a fairly recent thing. Some parts of the world may have been aware of it sooner, but it wasn't something that was known.

And while we're on the subject of herbivore vs. carnivore, many vegetarians scoff at the notion that our teeth are "designed" to eat meat. They say "we don't have teeth like a dog or cat". Well, we have a whole array of different teeth, designed to eat many kinds of material, including meat. Not exclusively meat, certainly.

Essentially, many Vegans are fanatics. They will spew rhetoric at you till they go blue in the face. I once hear a Vegan describe how much more natural and healthy the lifestyle was. Then he went on to describe the battery of supplements he had to take to replace the food value from those animal products. natural, but with supplements? Doesn't add up to me.

I'm starting to rant here, sorry. You are entitled to be a vegetarian, but I'm just as entitled to eat meat.

edit:
Love the name "Hunters R Cowards", great one. But, from the other side: "Vegetarian": an old indian word, translates to "bad hunter".

Answer 9

yes i would still be a vegan. i know for a fact that i dont need an animal to die for me to live a healthy life. i am never hungry and i feel very good about myself every morning when i wake up knowing that how i live my life i am helping animals. or at least not promoting their deaths. what a sad life it must be, being born to die.

Answer 10

Reformists care about how an animal is killed.
Animal rights actvists and advocates do not
want anything to be killed.