Does anybody here seen/heard/practice the "ripping technique"?

Question

one of the exercises suggest strenghtning your fingers by hitting them on earth, then wood progressively hitting more harder surfaces.

the attacks involves "ripping" peoples faces, body parts, muscles...apparently through training they can grab your triceps and "rip" it off...and they can also "rip" your face off.

Answer 1

I've heard of this and done it to some degree.

Really, if you do a search for "hook wrestling" and "rips" you will see what I am talking about, gouging the tender bits of another's face and upper body (throat, mandibles and clavicles) has been a time-honored tactic in close-range fighting since at least the days of Greek pankration (it was said to be a Spartan tactic) and still exists in its modern form as the "shredder" technique in Richard Dimitri's *senshido* system. It is an intuitive attack that uses a gross-body motion to inflict serious pain (if not outright damage) to the weakest soft tissues of the face, neck, throat and shoulders.

But. There are some problems with the method.

--It takes some doing to be able to train this stuff in an alive, resistant manner without maiming your training partners. Digging into stationary targets after the kung-fu manner is fine to develop attributes but does little to develop a sense of how hard it can be to rip *into* a living, struggling human. What you really need, at minimum, is to find a partner and then protect them, using at minimum a chest protector, padding around the throat, and padded headgear with a *face cage* so you do, as the defender, have something to *rip into* without maiming your partner's face.

--Ripping and gouging, by themselves, are not a delivery system you can use constantly and repeatedly like a boxer would a jab. If you just gouge, eventually, the nerve endings you attack are going to be numbed out and/or damaged, and your "rips" will no longer inflict pain (been there myself on that one, it sucks). If you actually train to, and succeed in, tearing flesh, then eventually you will hit either bone or something else with no real sense of pain, and the results will be much the same, only bloodier.

Realize that at best, barring any ninja throat or spine-rip stuff, you are going to have to keep the ripping/gouging a rare and occasional *surprise* tactic in order for it to work. Anything more and people will either get numb to the pain, or they will react to it quickly, rather like the way guys learn to react to a kick or knee to the crotch. And this means....you have to have a delivery system *besides* the rips, and something else to move on to (like head control, chokeouts, leg sweeps, takedowns) once the rip is done. Digging into another's flesh is, barring ninja tactics, a *momentary* tactic at best. It's a bridge, not unlike trapping a limb or using a standing clinch. You set it up with another move, you do it, then you move on to something else.

--Keep in mind that with any sort of violence, that there are *always* going to be legal issues. They do vary a lot according to where you live, but in general, whether you are in Texas (where the laws are looser) or in New York (where they can be stifling), almost *any* laws on the books regarding self-defense insist that you use a *minimum* amount of force needed to *end the situation*, which is defined not by your "winning a fight", but by getting *out* and escaping the situation relatively unharmed.

Yes, it sucks, but Duty To Flee is on the books for a reason. Police forces *want* to keep their precious little thugs that they cater to *intact* as it makes it easier for the lawyers to make a clear-cut, unambiguous court case. The legal system would *much rather* have the law-abiding citizen *be the victim* and be maimed or killed if it means that the alleged criminal is *more clearly* in the wrong.

So yes....you end up with laws on the book that make *mayhem* a felony, meaning if you do something, *even in* the course of self-defense, that is deliberately about maiming or disfiguring a criminal, more often than not *you* will end up in jail, because it blurs the boundaries between law-abiding citizen and thug. Meaning a lot of the time, if you bite, gouge an eye, or rip out an attacker's flesh, *you* end up being the one in legal trouble for using *excessive force* or for deliberately trying to maim. The only times I've heard that *that* level of force was even justified was when a *gun* wielding attacker went after an *unarmed and untrained* citizen. Yep, the disparity of power *has to be* that big before you are in your rights to gouge, at least to the point of tearing flesh and drawing blood.

So yeah, in general, the rabbit hole goes deeper than you think when it comes to ripping or gouging tactics. Unless you make it clear that this is about *pain compliance* and not tearing flesh, it becomes a real legal hassle to either teach or to know.

Just saying....take care and stay safe. -_-

Answer 2

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Answer 3

I've heard about it. And one of our Moo Duk Kwan katas have a technique where you'd pierce thru the stomach, and grab what's inside.....I think the lungs for that particular move.

Though, that was something done in samurai time. Now a days, that part of the kata has turned into grabbing the guy's coat/shirt.

Answer 4

riping is really violent man. i got 3 san soo kung fu teachers and one of em( the violent one) teachs alot of stuff liek that..There alot of violent stuff like that you can do man..its painful just thinking about i Would rip somebody (if i could) only if my family is treatneded.

Answer 5

This sort of training is typical of Tiger Kung Fu

Answer 6

My uncle use to practice that.