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2007-04-12 05:58:54 · 15 answers · asked by jay sssss 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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in the verses that you stated here says “Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned” the death is the one passed upon all men and not the sin.

2007-04-12 06:34:07 · update #1

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I'm not Catholic but clearly God told Adam in the day he ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil he would surely die...and we still do die, Apparently we inherited sin and death as a people in this world. It is the reason for our lord to come in the form of a man to pay this penalty of death for us.
Edit to Jan Are you aware of humans who are living forever or do we all die? Does this truly need a further explanation from God? Does the Bible itself not tell you that the wages of sin is death? Was death not the penalty Christ paid for us all?
Romans 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
17 For if by one man’s offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
jan if we have a righteous God and we all pay for our sins do we not all die in our sin apart for God's righteousness? Is your God in agreement with sin?
Edit Death is the result of sin and the wages of sin are death sin enterd the world and so did death as a result of eating of the tree of knowledge of good and evil

2007-04-12 06:03:17 · answer #1 · answered by djmantx 7 · 6 2

Look at it from an anthropological point of view. The story in Genesis about Adam and Eve most mainstream biblical scholars will tell you is mythology that tries to explore our human condition and spiritual awakening. In a more realistic scenario there was a time in the line of pre hominids where homo sapience sapience crossed the threshhold of conscienceness. This has marked a new level of being that separated us from the animal world.
Generally we come out from our animal ancestral past to become human - clever creatures. Broadly speaking, we are now in a phase where we are in the process of trying to attain our authentic humanity by aspiring to our spiritual potential. We even have the idea that we will be transformed into to a state of becoming that can share in the life of our Creator. Incidentally when one talks of the process of Evolution - there is nothing offensive to "catholic" thought about this. This is simply how the Creator has been bringing things about. The great dilemma to humanity has always been whether to recognise or not recognise God as the Creator. We find ourselves in a state of deep shortcommings - generally translated as in a state of sin - a very churchy word. None the less we aspire to great things but we get there by great stuggle and pain and often awsome tragedy. We either try to participate in what the Creator wants to do with us or go and do it our own way. We are very apt to do it our own way which usually ends up in greater tragedy. Then when things go horribly wrong we start to search for the meaning of it all. Many end up so utterly confused that they suicide because they cannot make any sense of it.

It is possible to reach a highrer state of being but can only do this by tapping into the great Divine stream that nouminously surrounds us. To many this seems far fetched and absurd but our own existence in our own individuality in the here and now - for no apparent rhyme or reason - is equally just as absured. But here we are original sin and all. I believe there is a good reason why and all who do are going places unimaginable yet. This is only my opinion.

2007-04-20 07:58:53 · answer #2 · answered by ziffa 3 · 0 0

Not the sin but the "effects" of the sin, which is the natural propensity to sin in a fallen world. According to the Atonement doctrine, in order for Jesus' death to have a salvific meaning, there must be something for which to atone, something which applies to everyone, otherwise salvation would get too complicated. Since most of us were never in the Garden of Eden, the "effects of Original sin" was the best theory that First Century theologians could provide.

2007-04-12 15:12:13 · answer #3 · answered by skepsis 7 · 0 0

The state of Original Sin surrounds and affects every human being in the world. We do not inherit Original Sin by blood nor are we guilty of it.

The Catholic Church talks about the Fall in this way:

The account of the fall in Genesis chapter 3 uses figurative language, but affirms a primeval event, a deed that took place at the beginning of the history of man. Revelation gives us the certainty of faith that the whole of human history is marked by the original fault freely committed by our first parents.

If we assume that the theory evolution is true, the scenario might happen like this. A manlike being is slowly evolving. At some point God gives these beings a soul

These human beings lived in complete “original” holiness. They loved God with all their heart, with all their soul, and with all their mind. They loved their neighbors as much as they loved themselves.

Then the first human beings disobeyed God, choosing to follow their own will rather than God's will. This was the Original Sin.

Consequently, they lost the grace of original holiness and sin became universally present in the world.

Besides the personal sin of the first human beings, original sin describes the fallen state of human nature, which affects every person born into the world, and from which Christ, the "new Adam," came to redeem us.

With love in Christ.

2007-04-13 01:43:18 · answer #4 · answered by imacatholic2 7 · 0 2

Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

2007-04-12 13:02:38 · answer #5 · answered by Dr. Linder 4 · 2 2

All you need do is look at the world to see we still bear the sin of Adam.

Original sin, in a nutshell, is the belief that we know more or better than God does- choosing what we want over what God wants.

And every day, every second- we see it all over.

This tendency to sin is called concupisence- and Christians battle it every day.

2007-04-18 14:53:05 · answer #6 · answered by Mommy_to_seven 5 · 0 0

Adam and Eve were created perfect and they were commanded to be fruitful and fill the earth and make the entire planet like the Garden of Eden. They were told that they would not die as long as they obeyed God's one command... to avoid the fruit of one tree.

had satan failed in his power play to get Adam and Eve to sin, God could have rightfully destroyed satan at that time

humans would be eternal and never have death and we would have filled the earth and expanded the garden to cover the entire planet as God commanded the first couple to do

but since satan *was* successful in convincing humans that we didnt need Gods Kingdom, that we could have our own kingdoms/governments and rule ourselves, God had to give humans the time necessary to figure out that we can not rule ourselves and that human politics/governments are and will always be a failure and that the only answer to mankinds problems is God's Kingdom of peace and love as demonstrated by His only-begotten Sons teachings and examples.

2007-04-15 05:34:32 · answer #7 · answered by seeker 3 · 0 0

Original sin is just to pull a guilt trip on the followers to keep them in line

2007-04-20 10:53:46 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

It takes more than just one Bible citation to understand Original Sin:

Gen. 2:17 - the day you eat of that tree, you shall die. Adam and Eve ate of the tree, and they spiritually died. Some Protestant communities ignore or deny the reality of original sin. But if there is no original sin, then we do not need a Savior either. The horrors of our world testify to the reality of original sin.

Gen. 3:14-19 - God's punishment for eating of the tree was cursing satan, increasing women's pain in childbirth, and condemning man to toil and labor for his whole life.

Job 14:1,4 - man that is born of woman is of few days and full of trouble. Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? All humans are afflicted with original sin, and this includes babies as well. This is why the Catholic Church has baptized babies for 2,000 years.

Psalm 51:5 - I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me. We have inherited Adam's sin from the moment of our conception. This is why babies need baptism – to wash away the original sin inherited from Adam and Eve.

Rom. 5:12 - sin came into the world through one man, Adam, and death came through this sin. This sin affects all people, men and women, babies and adults. Through the merits of Jesus Christ, we have the sacrament of baptism to wash away the sin that came through Adam.

Rom. 5:14 - death reigned from Adam to Moses, born from Adam's original sin. This is a mystery we do not fully understand, but we must all acknowledge our propensity toward evil and our need of God.

Rom. 5:16 - the judgment following one single trespass brought condemnation for all. This means all have inherited the sin of Adam, and all must be washed clean of this sin in the waters of baptism.

Rom. 5:19 - by one man's disobedience many were made sinners. Original sin is passed on as part of the human condition, and only God in the flesh could atone for our sins by the eternal sacrifice of Himself. Through this sacrifice, God has re-opened the doors to heaven, and through baptism, we are once again made children of God.

1 Cor. 15:21 - for by one man came death. In Adam, all die. In Christ, the new Adam, all now may live.

Eph. 2:1-3 - we were all dead through sin and all lived in the passions of our flesh until Christ came to save us.

2007-04-14 20:00:23 · answer #9 · answered by Daver 7 · 0 0

I'd love to know the answer to this one;
I've studied in the manuscripts for years and can't figure that one out......


QUICK EDIT: Geez, your answerer who said God told Adam on the day he partakes of the tree of/evil, that HE WOULD DIE,
God wasn't talking to everyone, he was talking to Adam. If you read scripture, you will note, that Adam did not live to be a thousand. "A day with the Lord is as a thousand years to man".
NOBODY PAYS FOR ANOTHERS SIN;
YOU WOULD ONLY PAY IF YOU COMMIT A LIKE-SIN. A PERSON PAYS FOR THEIR OWN SIN, PERIOD.

2007-04-12 13:03:24 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Because they are our first parents, & we genetically inherit our sinful natures because of them.

However, we are Redeemed from our sins By the Second Adam,--Jesus--& by the Second Eve--Mary, His Mother.

2007-04-12 13:03:30 · answer #11 · answered by clusium1971 7 · 0 1

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