Cliff C ..who are you ? you post ,your words ..." i don't eat meat for a few reasons including it isn't a neccassary food for humans to consume, you can get every nutrient your body requires without meat, i do not agree with the way animals are raised and treated, and i never really liked the taste of most meats growing up anyway.
oh, and there are more sources of protein than just meat you know. " ......................AND then this ...what gives ? ......... Inquiring minds want to know .....!
2007-04-10 15:23:49
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answered by connie b 6
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Your point about war doesn't make any sense. This was quoted on a TV show, though I don't recall who said it originally.
"Of all the animals man is the only one that inflicts pain for the pleasure of doing it. It is a trait that is not known to the other higher animals."
That is why there is war. When people don't try to respect or at least tolerate others that is what happens. Most vegetarian people respect all animals. Just by making such a post, you become an example of lack of respect for others.
The concept of natural doesn't mean anything to people since they are able to do many things they want through science. People are even cloning meat now. Is cloned meat natural? Are factory farms natural? Other people are natural too, we shouldn't bury people but feed them to the starving and homeless. The same is true of all the animals in the animal shelter. This would be more efficient, natural, and save lots of money.
Why do you think they don't do this (even though it would save money)? Because people can think, they can choose to do what they want (hopefully within the law). So if you can't respect the choice of other people why are you asking questions? I thought Yahoo Answers if for people to learn something. Not ask a question and answer it themselves.
2007-04-11 09:47:27
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answer #2
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answered by FM 4
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I think meat is natural?
i think meat is a 100% natural substance. it is way more natural than most food we eat, heck most fruits and vegetables are now genitically moddified and\or drenched with chemicals! how natural is that?!@?!@
so honestly, meat is natural, so why not eat it?
-meat filled with hormones and antibiotics from an animal kept ina cage alll of it’s life and then going to the store and buying it in Styrofoam and plastic wrap is far from natural
also a few more points i would like to get accross.
1. god put meat on our planet for food, not to be s tuck in zoos for stupid kids to throw peanuts at.
-I don’t think you should speak for GOD,animals are here for their own reason.he gave them the gift of life just as he did to you.
2. our teeth. no need to elaborate but they are sharp for a reason (tearing through flesh).
-I’d like to see you go in a field butt naked and take down a deer with those teeth
3. our ancestors ate meat because their ancestors did. this has been going on since before our ancestors could have been called human people.
-Some of our ancestors probably murdered,raped,and ate each other,traditions do not make things right
and lastly for now 4. they will die anyway why not eat them? would you rather their deaths being meaningless?? i wouldn't because i respect animals. i mean nobody cares if they die because they don't really have a conscienceness the way we people do
-They are already dead,what can we do for them?If you buy it then more will be demanded which will mean more supplied in the future.does it make a difference whether you eat it or not if it is dead,will the animal thank you for eating it?No.If you respect animals you’d be a veg*n.
and another thing what about war??? so many people are dying every day!! its like you @#$%^@# vegetarians care more about some dumb cow or chicken than you do about people!! it makes me so angry!
-I'm sure most veggies preach non-violence
2007-04-10 11:07:11
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answer #3
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answered by Anonymous
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I know I know, don’t feed the trolls, but you gotta admit it’s quite fun.
"i think meat is a 100% natural substance. it is way more natural than most food we eat, heck most fruits and vegetables are now genitically moddified and\or drenched with chemicals! how natural is that?!@?!@”
- yes, you wont find many arguing with you that meat (muscle tissue) is a natural not substance. What they add to it is not natural, they way the animals it comes from a raised, bred, killed, packaged, and eaten is not natural.
“1. god put meat on our planet for food, not to be s tuck in zoos for stupid kids to throw peanuts at.”
- The amount of cognitive dissonance you display between the “food” you eat and the animal it comes from astounds me. In the bible animals were created before humans, and no mention is made in the book of Genesis of animals being used as the food of humans. No matter how the world become, “God” did not intend for us to eat animals in the beginning. (Just an FYI I’m not a Christian so this augment doesn’t fly with me anyways.)
“2. our teeth. no need to elaborate but they are sharp for a reason (tearing through flesh).”
- Look at a Dogs teeth, look at yours… Next question.
“3. our ancestors ate meat because their ancestors did. this has been going on since before our ancestors could have been called human people.”
- Our ancestors also use to own slaves. Tradition is no justification for exploitation.
“and lastly for now 4. they will die anyway why not eat them? would you rather their deaths being meaningless?? i wouldn't because i respect animals. i mean nobody cares if they die because they don't really have a conscienceness the way we people do.”
- If we don’t breed these animals in the first place this whole situation is averted. Research is showing that animals are quite like us cognitively. Charles Darwin is quoted as saying “the difference between humans and animals is surely a matter of degree, not kind..
“also another thing is its really inconvient for friends and familes of vegetarians. my cousin announced last thanksgiving she was a vegetarian and thought we were 'supporting cruelty' wtf honestly. MEAT IS A TRADITION!”
- Too bad, I could honestly care less whether my ethical position inconveniences anyone. Of course we can make our own food if need be, but too damn bad we don’t eat the crap you do.
“and another thing if we weren't biologically required to eat meat (it is our destiny in our genes) WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO!! GOD PEOPLE. our bodies are able to9 efficiently extract nutrients from meat for a reason BECAUSE WE NEED IT”
- I suggest you look up the proper definition of the word omnivore. Just because we can eat animal flesh does not mean we have to.
“and another thing what about war??? so many people are dying every day!! its like you @#$%^@# vegetarians care more about some dumb cow or chicken than you do about people!! it makes me so angry!!”
-First, what are you doing the advance human rights? I thought so. Secondly, Veganism is about ending oppression in all forms, human or animal. Our theory allows for both.
Edit: @ Andy B: wrote, "...And animals do not have 'rights' because they do not have responsibilities. Certainly, we should not beat them or be cruel to them unnecessarily, but that doesn't constitute rights."
- According to your logic, severely retarded humans, and infants also should have no rights as they surely have no responsibilities to society either.
2007-04-10 12:10:14
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answered by Anonymous
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i agree with felix. Animals have lives, they make babies, and they have feelings, do you think that if they didn't feel they would hug each other <
do you really think that vegetarians don't care about the people who die in the war? they care about every living being...if they didn't have consciousness would the females care for their babies the way a human does<< and that is why they call it the animal instinct?
our ancestors used to eat meat and hunt because they needed to survive and they didn't have any other choice...but today, we all do...we have more capabilities than THEY did long ago, so we have the choice: do we eat a living being who breeds and lives like humans do, or let the creatures live in harmony and let's eat vegetable?
another thing: if they "die anyways" why wouldn't you let them die naturally? would you eat a human because he's gonna "die anyways"?
*think about it*
2007-04-10 11:50:00
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answered by I ♥ me 4
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I don't eat meat (however natural it may be) because of the many hormones and other c**p that are put into non-organic meats as well as the way many animals are treated. I also do prefer the taste of vegetables over meat, and i like soy very much. It is also not a question of how natural something is (though organic foods without s**t in them are much healthier) but more of what it is. Also, in response to the ending point on your question (that you said animals don't have a conscience or whatever mis-spelled word you used), i view that as wrong. Animals have as much a conscience as we do (even though most are unable of cognitive thought, that is irrelevant), and besides, how would you feel if someone fed you food that you're not supposed to eat (like feeding cows corn rather than grass) and then brought you somewhere one day and killed you?
In regards to fish, the main reason that fish populations are so low is because they are trawler-fished or accidentally caught in a trawler net.
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and another thing what about war??? so many people are dying every day!! its like you @#$%^@# vegetarians care more about some dumb cow or chicken than you do about people!! it makes me so angry!!
-The solution is not to start wars. I am also offended you used profanity to describe my beliefs.
2007-04-10 11:15:09
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answered by pleekau 1
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This is exactly why some people do not like to eat meat, ''it makes you angry'', othre people do not like to eat it because, unlike vegetables, meat is different, animals live and breath and walk around, they have babies, and have their own rights to a good life, and so on, try to understand that, not all people are the same, some people are like you, and others are not - live and let live.
2007-04-10 11:23:21
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answered by Anonymous
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yes. its natural but its inhuman these days to eat animals when we have useless manufactured foods like cereal bars. if anyone uses the excuse that our ancestors did it then its ok, well the reason why they did it is b.c they weren't sure if they'll eat the next day, next week, etc. Meat is high in protein which makes you less hungery for awhile, but its just useless to eat animals these days. i mean, come on..! look at all the other options we have now in the grocery stores. if our ancestors had that choice then i think they would choose processed snack cakes & cereal bars then getting messy from killing. If you killed an animal from scratch then I think you wouldn't be eating beef at that kitchen table for the rest of your life!
2007-04-11 10:33:33
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answered by Anonymous
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I support anyone choosing to be a vegetarian, I however, am not. I have friends that are, some for the animal-killing reason, and some for health reasons. I stopped eating meat for almost two years once, and it did give me an appreciation of what vegetarians have to go through at restaurants, social events, etc.
I agree that eating meat is a part of our heritage, and that some of the things they are doing to vegetables nowadays can be scary. As for the chemicals, that is a good reason to support organic produce!
2007-04-10 11:10:11
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answered by samantha 7
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Prepare for a long rant:
I am not a vegetarian, and I believe you're right that humans were put on this earth as omnivores, meaning eating both animals and plants.
I do not like it when vegetarians (none of my vegetarian friends are like this) try to thrust their beliefs on meat-eaters and play the guilt-trip. They should accept that everyone has their own unique set of beliefs and opinions; you should tell your cousin that. Yes, there is a difference between attacking others' beliefs and defending your own.
(I also don't like this when people of other beliefs attack others for eating something certain. For example, the other day at lunch I was eating pork, and someone asked me how I could live with myself after eating something so disgusting. I respect your beliefs, please respect mine!)
However, I do understand that in western society, animal slaughtering has gone too far. The meat industry is literally an industry now, as protein is now produced for us in grim, unsanitary factories. Not only does this mean a great deal of disheartening cruelty, but it also means a deficiency in quality of meat.
This is why I am against this cruelty and savagery, and this is why I support better alternatives of eating meat, like buying organic or cage-free/ free-range meats. You can also practice some moderation in eating meat--it shouldn't be the only thing you eat. In my family's Asian dinner, we usually have rice with a few smaller meat dishes and a lot more, and larger, vegetable dishes. Also, stay away from mainstream food chains like KFC, which facilitate "meat factories", or at least eat less of them. If you are a Deep South family with a lot of obese family members, it's time to stop with the chicken boxes anyway.
In terms of fish, the oceans are really being ravaged, so we eat fish that are on safe-lists. These include farmed oysters, mackerel, sardines, and salmon. If the fish at the market is not on the list (shrimp, Chilean Sea Bass, etc) you should eat less of it, PLEASE, because it is either full of mercury, facing low population, or its harvest is depreciating the rest of the ocean's populations of other creatures, OR you are taking fish away from the populations of Africa, that need it. Because Europe and America are taking in so great amounts of seafood, some people's main meat source in Africa is fish heads!
A lot of my friends use this as their main reason for giving up meat. I have a friend who says that if she ever goes to Europe of Asia, or she is certain that the animal she is eating wasn't stuffed in squalor in a tiny cage for years, then she'll eat meat again.
2007-04-10 11:21:46
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answered by Emmy 2
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Ok, I am going to do without the insults this time.
Meat, Is not 100% natural, not when there are hormones and antibiotics riddled throughout the meat.
And about vegetables being genetically modified, I know this isn't exactly "genetic modification" but why do you think that cows and chickens are bred the way they are (Fat and immobile) so they taste better to the consumer, isn't that along the same lines....
There is more than just one reason we don't eat meat, some of us don't eat meat because we don't want to support the cruelty that goes on in the meat and dairy industry (and egg).
So as long as animals are being abused, there are always going to be people like us fighting against it, because it is just plain wrong.
I agree with the fact that animals were not put here to live in zoos... but as far as animals being here for our consumption, I would have to disagree. Now it is evolution and survival that made animals that were not as smart as us, lower on the "food chain"... but today, we do not need them to survive, we can live perfectly healthy lives as vegans. So it just seems like another step in evolution to become a vegan. And I hate when people say that animals were put here for US, They were put her for themselves! Not us.
Again... to your second point... EVOLUTION... we evolved as omnivores... because at times we needed meat to survive, this would be the reason for the sharp teeth in our mouth. And AGAIN we do not need to eat them any more to survive. So why not stop eating them?....
I am not even going to explain my thoughts on your 3rd point because I believe I have already explained it.
As far as them " dying anyway", Yes all things die, but we shouldn't be the ones dominating them and killing them off! They should not be dying because of us, they should be dying in nature, naturally dying and naturally mating. Instead, we are forcing them to do both. I don't believe that you "respect" animals, or else you wouldn't be subjecting them to horrible lives just because they taste good.
I don't know about your family, but I don't make it inconvenient for my family. I don't make them feed me, and I don't go around making them think they are bad people for being meat eaters, but that’s just me, I can’t speak for all vegans and vegetarians.
We do not need meat, the thing is that, we CAN extract nutrients from meat, but we can also extract nutrients from vegetables, and it is proven healthier to extract our nutrients from veggies, so why not rid ourselves of the bad things (meat).
As far as war, that is beyond our control. This is the point that my boyfriend (a meat eater, he said, "There is so many other Shi!ty things going on in the world right now.") made... It is a good point, but war is completely out of our control, trying our best to help animals is in our control, and shouldn't we do everything that IS in our control to make the world a better place?
2007-04-10 15:11:22
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answered by blah blah 3
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