If we were intellegently designed?

Question

Why do we get sick? What's the purpose? If I was God, I would have everybody die at an old age peacefully. Why is there cancer and even the common cold? Why are we succeptable to such things? What's the point?

Christin, even happy pastors get sick, and cancer. Even ones who go camping and eat organic.

Answer 1

God's original creation was perfect. Sin entered the world and everything became corrupted and subject to decay. Sin entered the world because an omniptent God cannot create a morally free creature (angels and humans) incapable of choosing to sin. Thus the first humans were created with the potential to sin, and they did.

Once that happened, the earth and all its creatures suffered and continue to do so.

God allows suffering in the world for many reasons. We cannot understand all the reasons for these things, for a transcendent (extending or lying beyond the limits of ordinary experience) God is, after all, knowable only in a limited sense by our finite minds. Nevertheless, we can determine some of the reasons why God would allow suffering.

First suffering can be a test of faith such as described in

1Pe 1:7 so that the tested genuineness of your faith--more precious than gold that perishes though it is tested by fire--may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Second, suffering can be a sanctifying experience. Joseph saw how an apparent evil towards him was meant for a greater good by God:

Gen 50:20 As for you, you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good, to bring it about that many people should be kept alive, as they are today.

Third, suffering could be a chastisement as the result of sin in a person’s life. Chastisement does not mean complete and total rejection by God, only that our souls may be cleansed from the malady of sin. Paul spoke of this chastisement:

1Co 11:29 For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment on himself.
1Co 11:30 That is why many of you are weak and ill, and some have died.
1Co 11:31 But if we judged ourselves truly, we would not be judged.
1Co 11:32 But when we are judged by the Lord, we are disciplined so that we may not be condemned along with the world.

Yet, not all illnesses or sickness is the result of sin. Christ clearly said as much:

Joh 9:1 As he passed by, he saw a man blind from birth.
Joh 9:2 And his disciples asked him, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?"
Joh 9:3 Jesus answered, "It was not that this man sinned, or his parents, but that the works of God might be displayed in him.

Jesus did not imply that the man or his parents had not sinned. He meant that the man’s blindness was not a direct result of sin in their lives. God had allowed this man to be born blind in order that the man might become a means of displaying the mighty works of God. Before the man was born, the Lord Jesus knew He would give sight to those blind eyes.

Fourth, suffering can sometimes be considered a means by which we display the sympathy of Christ in a practical manner, thus proving our faith through works. The Apostle Paul notes:

Col 1:24 Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I am filling up what is lacking in Christ's afflictions for the sake of his body, that is, the church,

The afflictions endured by Paul in his flesh were for the sake of Christ's body, namely, the church. The sufferings of non-believing people are, in one sense, purposeless. There is no high dignity attached to these sufferings. They are only a foretaste of the torment of hell to be endured forever. But the suffering of the believer is not the same. When believers suffer for Christ, Christ in a very real way suffers with them.

Fifth, suffering can be a means by which we are tempered (strengthened) for the eventualities to come. Christ, when speaking to Peter of his eventual death stated:

Joh 21:18 Truly, truly, I say to you, when you were young, you used to dress yourself and walk wherever you wanted, but when you are old, you will stretch out your hands, and another will dress you and carry you where you do not want to go.

Like the old saying, “what doesn’t kill you, makes you stronger”, suffering can build us up so that we are better prepared for the future and its travails.

Sixth, suffering can be used as a witness to others of God’s unmerited grace. Our attitude towards an illness, accident, etc. and our reception of the same speak volumes when our spoken testimony is rejected.

Seventh, suffering is sometimes a means of weaning us from the things of this world to cause us to draw nearer to God. Suffering should be a means of educating us to the prospect of heaven. This earthly world is not the home of the believer. We are pilgrims and strangers whose citizenship is in another place. Our minds should be focused on things invisible and not in the temporal things of this life.

We must remember that with the fall of mankind in Eden sin entered the world, corrupting earth and all its inhabitants. Thus we have sin directly causing suffering when sinful people commit sinful acts. We have sin causing suffering indirectly by the deteriorating earth and all its natural disasters.

Some people argue that since God made everything, He made evil too. Let’s consider this. An omnipotent God could not have created a morally free creature incapable of choosing evil. Thus, created beings could choose evil if they wanted to. Yet, that does not mean God made evil. Yes, God is the author of every *thing* in the created universe and when he created the first man and woman as morally free agents, the potential for them to sin existed.

But evil is not a *thing* or a substance; it is a *privation* or *lack* in things, e.g., blindness is lack of sight, pain is lack of health, hate or murder is lack of love. Therefore God did not create evil.

Christ told us that we would suffer in this world:
Joh 16:33 I have said these things to you, that in me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world.

But why doesn’t God just stop evil actions that cause innocent people to suffer?

Jer 12:1 Righteous are you, O LORD, when I complain to you; yet I would plead my case before you. Why does the way of the wicked prosper? Why do all who are treacherous thrive?
Jer 12:2 You plant them, and they take root; they grow and produce fruit; you are near in their mouth and far from their heart.

Why doesn’t God intervene to stop evil if He is all-loving and all-powerful? Why doesn’t He stop the drunk driver’s car that is going to crash into a bus? Why doesn’t He deflect the murderer’s bullets? The person asking doesn’t really want God to stop all their evil actions. They don’t want to be invisibly gagged every time they’re about to say something hurtful; they don’t want to stub their toe when they try to kick the dog. They just think it would be good if God stopped certain evil acts or just the evil acts of others. But that would make life impossible. There would be no freedoms, no regularity and no personal responsibility.

Having said that, never forget that God is not indifferent to our sufferings. God restrains sin and sinners so that we can appreciate mercy and unmerited grace in light of sin. If He did not our streets would be running with blood drawn by reprobates.

Answer 2

The standard response is that after Man's Fall from Grace, God allowed sickness and death into the world. This is a perfectly reasonable explanation, as long is your understanding of anatomy, microbiology, and epidemiology haven't made it past the 15th century. Unfortunately, as you learn about medicine you realize that ailments like cancer are only possible because of inherent flaws in RNA and cell replication. So you're left with a conundrum: either God re-engineered mankind at the molecular level after the Fall, or else the potential for lethal gene mutation was there from the start. This takes us back to the original question: why would God design us with mortal flaws, if we didn't become mortal until later?

Answer 3

you could produce a literally endless list of things that God should have "intelligently designed". For starters, why is the universe so big? evolution explains this, creation doesn't really. In fact, you'd almost have to assume that there was something else out there, and we will meet it someday. cool.
But if the idea was put up to the same scrutiny as evolution, it would be forced to answer every one of these alleged unintelligences before being taken seriously. But people like it more, so they don't care.

Answer 4

Why is my prostate gland where it is?

The standard Christian answer to this invokes "The Fall", the corruption of the world consequent on human sinfulness, specifically the rebellion of Adam and Eve.

So any "good" feature can be attributed to a benevolent deity, and any less than perfect one as due to human sin, or to Satan as the current ruler of this world.

Covers everything, that does!

Answer 5

I think they prefer to be called intersex people. And if you really want to tell them that they are not God's creatures like the rest of us, then I think your theology is as poor as your humanity. Contrary to what Jill says, people are NOT God's "mistakes".

Answer 6

I don't get sick, at least not for the past 16 years. No joke.

Answer 7

God did not intelligently design man nor did man intelligently design god.
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Answer 8

cancer is another one of god's creations.
it has as much right to live as you do.
if you hadnt noticed life is in conflict with itself.

Answer 9

Germs are also intelligently designed.

Answer 10

If we were intelligently designed by a God then he sure did a crappy job.

Answer 11

We get sick since we don't live the lives of health and nature we were meant to live when created by God. I was born again and I haven't been sick since, nor had anxieties or fears.