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For the watch to be invented, it required a group consciousness…Society had to have progressed to a certain point before that watch could even be invented. (Like you can’t invent a computer just after the hammer.)

But for a single God to exist that suggests the watchmaker does not have to be part of some group consciousness or society. And if that’s true, show me a feral child who has written a 300 page novel.

I’m not trying to prove atheism or theism. I’m just saying the analogy doesn't prove a single god exists unless the watchmaker built the battery-operated mechanical watch before experiencing any type of socialization.

If God didn't need prior knowledge to create, why use the analogy of the watchmaker when clearly he could not have invented the battery-operated mechanical watch without prior knowledge? God has no teacher.

2007-04-09 15:42:27 · 6 answers · asked by Tira Me A Las Arañas 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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True, there had to have been a designer, a metalsmith, a jeweler, a glassmaker and a glasscutter.

2007-04-09 15:47:54 · answer #1 · answered by ivorytowerboy 5 · 0 1

The watchmaker metaphor is quite valid. Your own examples are examples demonstrate human feebleness and self-centeredness. Cockroaches DO have a purpose. It's not to serve man directly, but they do have real purpose, and in a roundabout way help to serve mankind. Same goes for leeches and Malaria. Your argument that all things on earth should serve man is cogent, but your supporting examples show the incompleteness of your thoughts on the mattter. What you actually demonstrate with your choice of examples it that man's ability to understand the interplay of forces and lifeforms is extremely limited. In a way, you actually have helped demonstrate the valiidity of the watchmaker concept, by showing that there is a more complex intelligence at work than the freeble human mind could even comprehend.

2016-05-21 03:30:54 · answer #2 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

a specious argument that should be abandonned by believers as ridiculous and more supportive of no god than otherwise. the universe obviously started out more ignorant that anything else and time has allowed intelligence to develop through the ability of the brain / mind to recall and compare etc. function followed form and by chance we inherited the ability to develop a mentality which creates and now function preceeds form by our human intelligent design which is very contrary to the first formation of the universe.

2007-04-09 15:54:39 · answer #3 · answered by dogpatch USA 7 · 0 0

I know, I can't believe people still use the old "watchmaker" argument.

The best parody I've seen is this one, who shows how the argument can acutally be used to make more sense of how evolution works:
http://www.jhuger.com/watchmaker

2007-04-09 15:54:57 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

How foolish! For the hundredth time, watches evolved from sundials!

And yes, watches and alarm clocks shared a common ancestor.

2007-04-09 15:46:45 · answer #5 · answered by dave 5 · 3 0

But where did god come from?

2007-04-09 15:45:55 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

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