I have asked questions concerning the mormon faith and all I get is "you're jealous", "you hate us", etc....Is this the way the mormon people act when asked legit questions about thier religion? If it is than someone is false advertising on tv,when I see your commercials I think man they are nice. But if you start asking about certain doctrines they show thier real colors. So why do you baptize for the dead? Why do you say god lives on the planet kolob? What Jesus do you worship, the Jesus of the bible or the jesus of joseph smith or is your jesus, joseph smith and by whose authority do you spread your religion? If Jesus came to America to spread the gospel to the Indians than why did a European discover the plates and had angels appear to him? I am Native American and I find it rather racist that your jesus would not use a Native American to translate anything that was ment for Native Americans I was told that Jesus came here to serve the Indians with another testimony. truth please!
2007-04-09 09:28:14 · 16 answers · asked by baadda bing 1 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
No you will not get straight answers from them, they are taught to accept what they are told and they are forbidden to question it, questioning it or reading what they consider anti-Mormon literature is cause for ex-communication.
It is a made up religion with a made up book, there was never anything to be translated. They practice teachings given by their prophets, don't bother asking them they will get testy and even freak on ya. Try reading Kingdom of the Cults by Dr. Walter Martin or if you are interested in their real relationship with Native Americans try reading a book called The Claw of The Hawk, it is about Chief Wakara and his dealings with the Mormons. I could tell you much on this but can't write it all in such a small space.
Peace and Love
2007-04-09 09:39:26 · answer #1 · answered by Mariah 5 · 1⤊ 8⤋
I always give straight answers, so sorry if I just haven't seen your questions. Also, I could care less if someone asks questions based on false or skewed information or if they are trying to ask a question with alterior motives, that is there right, but I will always answer it honestly. It is wrong for anyone to attack another or be rude even if they have been wronged.
- We baptize for the dead to make sure everyone has the opportunity to accept Christ and follow His example of baptism. They are not automatically a Mormon when baptized for the dead, but can choose to accept it. What is sealed on earth by the priesthood is sealed in heaven.
- Mormons don't believe God lives on Kolob, but that Kolob is the closest place to where God resides.
- Mormons worship the Jesus of the Bible, which happens to be the same Jesus of the Book of Mormon and the same Jesus Joseph Smith saw.
- Mormons do not worship Joseph Smith just as other Christians don't worship Moses or Abraham. He was a prophet and a man, meaning he was imperfect. It is by the authority of God and Jesus that we practice our faith and spread the Good Word.
- As to why a "European" discovered the plates and not an American Indian...who knows but God. God chooses His prophets and has a plan, which at times we may not completely understand. It's religion, which is faith based. You could find something to discredit in any religion, but I respect all religions because I know it is a personal matter.
- I am sorry that you are offended that Jesus came to the inhabitants of the Americas and didn't have a native of the Americas translate it. However, the Book of Mormon was not meant for the Native Americans alone, but to bring all people to Christ. Christ did not come to "serve" the indians with another testimony, but did come to teach His sheep, a record of which is included in the Book of Mormon.
I hope these answer you questions. I am always glad to respond to other questions. Good luck.
2007-04-10 17:52:07 · answer #2 · answered by straightup 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
>So why do you baptize for the dead?<
There are many people who die without ever hearing the gospel, or having the chance to accept or reject it. God isn't going to send those people to hell, IMHO, but He can't send them to heaven, either, if they have not accepted Christ, or been baptised. So, we do it in their name, giving them the chance to accept or reject it.
>Why do you say god lives on the planet kolob?<
We don't. Kolob is a star, not a planet, and it's the star closest to where God is.
>What Jesus do you worship, the Jesus of the bible or the jesus of joseph smith or is your jesus, joseph smith and by whose authority do you spread your religion?
The only JESUS Christ there is. The Bible, and the Book of Mormon both testify of Him. Joseph Smith was a prophet, we don't worship him. As for authority, we believe we have the authority of God. But, we have the same authority as anyone to spread our faith.
>If Jesus came to America to spread the gospel to the Indians than why did a European discover the plates and had angels appear to him? I am Native American and I find it rather racist that your jesus would not use a Native American to translate anything that was ment for Native Americans I was told that Jesus came here to serve the Indians with another testimony. truth please!
Jesus came to the remnants of the Jews who were in this part of the world. As to why God didn't have a Native American find the plates, etc., I don't know. I can speculate. The biggest I can think is that, Joseph Smith, a caucasian, had a hard enough time getting people to accept what he was doing. Back in the early 19th century, Native American Indians would no doubt have been ignored at best, killed at worst.
2007-04-10 11:58:09 · answer #3 · answered by mormon_4_jesus 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
"Is this the way the mormon people act when asked legit questions about thier religion?"
No, this is the way we act when some one is being rude.
"But if you start asking about certain doctrines they show thier real colors. "
No, when outright lie and tell us what we believe we get upset.
"So why do you baptize for the dead? "
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Jesus Christ taught that baptism is essential to the salvation of all who have lived on earth (see John 3:5). Many people, however, have died without being baptized. Others were baptized without proper authority. Because God is merciful, He has prepared a way for all people to receive the blessings of baptism. By performing proxy baptisms in behalf of those who have died, Church members offer these blessings to deceased ancestors. Individuals can then choose to accept or reject what has been done in their behalf
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"Why do you say god lives on the planet kolob?"
We do not believe God lives on the planet Kolob.
"What Jesus do you worship, the Jesus of the bible or the jesus of joseph smith or is your jesus, joseph smith and by whose authority do you spread your religion?"
We worship the Jesus of the Bible, God's authority.
"If Jesus came to America to spread the gospel to the Indians than why did a European discover the plates and had angels appear to him? "
To restore the Gospel.
" I am Native American and I find it rather racist that your jesus would not use a Native American to translate anything that was ment for Native Americans I was told that Jesus came here to serve the Indians with another testimony. truth please!"
Truth: Jesus is not racist. I have some Native American blood that runs through my veins as well and the BoM applies to me just as much as it does anyone else.
2007-04-09 22:04:42 · answer #4 · answered by Radictis 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Email me at mandyj212000@yahoo.com. I'll try to answer all your questions in an up-front, non confrontational manner. I will respect you, as long as you respect me. You're questions are valid, and deserve a good response. It's just too long to type here. You can also IM me if you want. Just go to my profile, I'm open to chat about this. OH!! And I'm LDS, so you will get answers right from a person who lives it.
Edit: Since I have come back and read some of the other answers, I think I should add a few things. As far as Kolob goes- God doesn't live on Kolob. It's a star that is closest to God's throne, but He doesn't live on it.
We worship the Jesus of the bible. No, we don't believe in the Trinity, so some say our Christ is different. He isn't. Same one. No, Joseph Smith isn't Christ!! He was a prophet, just like Noah, Isaac or Moses. We spread our religion by authorization of God and His Son Christ. Christ and His apostles (Peter, James and John, among others) came to restore all the lost keys.
Joseph didn't discover the plates, they were shown to him. It could have easily been a native American instead of him. But he was the one that asked the right questions without holding anything back. Read the story of the first vision. I'll post a link.
Christ isn't racist, but you have to understand that Joseph Smith was in the right place at the right time. There really weren't any Native Americans in the area then. The BoM was written by the ancient inhabitants of this continent. That doesn't mean it was only for them. It's for everyone.
Christ said to his apostles after this resurrection that there were other people He needed to visit and teach. Some of them were here, some other places around the world. The records are of people that came from Jerusalem originally. If you would read the BoM, you may learn more about your own people. I'm not trying to be rude, just truthful. You can read the whole thing online if you want to. Also posting a link to a website written by a very wonderful LDS guy. It isn't put out by the church itself, so the disclaimer is that some of what he says is his own personal opinion, but it's really well written.
2007-04-09 16:39:57 · answer #5 · answered by odd duck 6 · 4⤊ 1⤋
Watch movie Kingdom of the God Makers, Read book Kingdom of the Cults.
I was born into mormonism in Salt Lake City, Utah, sixth generation pioneer stalk to very prominent mormons and pioneers.
They will not give straight answer to anything.
Read Claw of The Hawk about Cheif Wakara.
Oh and there was Natives in the area when the mormons arrived, Salt Lake City was Cheif Wakara's territory. There was 12 tribes in area, All twelve Chief had became brothers long before the Europeans arrived.
Quetioning the mormon faith is forbidden, they are brainwashed to get upset or outright hostile, they have to be approached in a particular manner for more information look up Dr. Walter Martin on how to convert mormons out of cult.
Mormons basicly practise: satanism, free masonry, ancient scottish rites, it's call Theocratical Communism, which is your basic communism along with belief their prophets get direct revelation from God.
It is not easy to grow up in life behind the Zion Curtain.
2014-06-29 13:19:17 · answer #6 · answered by Mothman 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
(Maybe it's your childish & excessive use of question marks.)
The truth is that there is no Jesus (or he was just some guy.)
It's *always* good to "ask about certain doctrines" or anything else, and if people balk, take it as a *big* red flag. But think in your own mind about angels and Gods, and you'll likely come up with the obvious - nothing supernatural exists!
2007-04-09 16:30:29 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 3⤋
I doubt very much you are trying to get any real answers here. All your questions contain some half-baked attempts at what you think or what someone else has told you about the LDS church.
gw
2007-04-09 16:45:51 · answer #8 · answered by georgewallace78 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Maybe, maybe not.
All cults give "straight" answers at first...with big smiles and friendly faces.
It is when you start pointing out all the inconsistencies, all the ridiculous teachings, and all the horrible things done.....that THEN the big smiles turn upside down...
If they haven't assimilated you into their cult...completely brainwashing you, then they "cut you off"..."kick you out of the fellowship", etc. Some cults are worse than others about this, but many will even kill you..."if you know too much" and want to leave...
The Moromns are a scary bunch...because they do seem so friendly at fist. They will even talk so wonderully about Jesus, at first...and even lead you to believe that they believe that salvation is by grace alone through faith alone in Jesus Christ.
But its all a front...watch out!
Be VERY cautious!
Read Acts 17:11...and be like a BEREAN!
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2007-04-09 16:56:56 · answer #9 · answered by yachadhoo 6 · 1⤊ 6⤋
I think that you will find that a person from any religion would get rather testy when you ask them questions that they do not know the answers to and/or they realize how stupid the answers are.
That's when they get offended & start the name-calling or telling you you're going to hell or that you need to find your savior...etc....
2007-04-09 16:31:46 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 3⤋