What Bible are you reading????????
John 1
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2The same was in the beginning with God.
3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
Luke 1:34-36
34And Mary said to the angel, How can this be, since I have no [intimacy with any man as a] husband?
35Then the angel said to her, The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you [like a shining cloud]; and so the holy (pure, sinless) Thing (Offspring) which shall be born of you will be called the Son of God.(A)
2007-04-09 02:07:45
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answered by williamzo 5
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The Father was not made, nor created, nor generated by anyone. The Son is not made, nor created, but begotten by the Father alone. The Holy Spirit is not made, nor created, nor generated, but proceeds from the Father and the Son. There is, then, one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three sons; one Holy Spirit, not three holy spirits. In this Trinity, there is nothing before or after, nothing greater or less. The entire three Persons are coeternal and coequal with one another. So that in all things, as is has been said above, the Unity is to be worshiped in Trinity and the Trinity in Unity.
Christ did not say, "Sit down and write Bibles and scatter them over the earth, and let every man read his Bible and judge for himself." If Christ had said that, there would never have been a Christianity on the earth at all, but a Babylon and confusion instead, and never one Church, the union of one body. Hence, Christ never said to His Apostles, "Go and write Bibles and distribute them, and let everyone judge for himself." That injunction was reserved for the Sixteenth Century, and we have seen the result of it. Ever since the Sixteenth Century there have been springing up religion upon religion, and churches upon churches, all fighting and quarreling with one another, and all because of the private interpretation of the Bible.
Christ sent His Apostles with authority to teach all nations, and never gave them any command of writing the Bible. And the Apostles went forth and preached everywhere, and planted the Church of God throughout the earth, but never thought of writing.
2007-04-12 19:35:26
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answered by Anonymous
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Jesus is God, and there is plenty of Scripture that says this, the deniers on this answer notwithstanding. They believe that only the Father is God. Trinitarians believe that the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God.
Some passages have already been mentioned that prove Jesus is God, but let's look at what the Father says about the Son:
"But about the Son he says, "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and the scepter of your kingdom is a righteous scepter." (Hebrews 1:8)
That alone should be enough to convince the most hardened skeptic, but it isn't. They reinterpret its clear meaning to something else that fits their a priori assumptions. (After all, we can't believe that this particular Scripture says something we don't personally believe, can we?)
Here are some other examples where Jesus applied the name of God (Cf. Exodus 3:14) to Himself: Matthew 14:27, Mark 6:50, Mark 13:6, Luke 21:8, John 4:26, John 6:20, John 8:24, 28, 58, and John 13:19. There are several others I have not listed. (Note, the I AM passages I referred to are from the Greek, as the English translations often mistranslate I AM for "It is I" or "I am He," to allow for readability.)
I am including a link for those who honestly want to get their hands around the doctrine below. It has a diagram that vividly demonstrates the Triune God concept. (About halfway down the page.)
With this overwhelming evidence, I cannot understand how anyone could deny the trinitarian nature of God.
2007-04-09 04:46:43
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answered by Anonymous
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I am a born again Christian that has been leading people to the Lord. I have prayed countless hours for God to reveal to me how to explain this concept...and He has done so... hopefully this will help you.
The first thing He actually revealed to my husband is that it is important to stop thinking in human terms. IE a human father could NEVER also be his son. Also, a human woman can NOT get pregnant while being a virgin. Both of these things are POSSIBLE WITH GOD.
God can be anything, anywhere, anytime, anyhow, and he can be more than one thing simultaneously. He is God. He can do ANYTHING. With that in mind, consider Genesis where it says let US make man in OUR image. True, it does not say "hi there are 3 of us in one!".. however, it does suggest that there was a plural sense of God even before man was created. Man was then created with a body, a mind, and a spirit.
How is this in the image of God Almighty?
Let us consider than, that He must also have a body, mind, and spirit. The body is the human Jesus, the mind is the Father, and the spirit is the Holy Spirit. Therefore God Almighty is comprised of 3 separate personalities in ONE God-the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Think of yourself-can your body move and react without reasoning from your mind? Wouldn't it be fitting to say that your body is the ambassador for your brain? The Son humbled himself because he is the body, and the Father is the mind. The Son said He couldn't do anything without the Father. The body can do nothing without the mind. He also said that He and the Father are One. They work through each other. The body and mind are one God, yet they are also each other.
Almighty God has a Body (Jesus), Mind (Father), and Spirit (HS), just as we do. Yet the three parts of God are additionally all each other, fulfilling the definition of a trinity.
Consider Isaiah 11:2. It illustrates that the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Wisdom. Now take a look at Proverbs 8 - the whole passage. This passage is describing the Holy Spirit, not Jesus. Wisdom =Holy Spirit. If you read on thru Proverbs 9, the HS begins to take on some characteristics of Jesus, proving that they are also one. They are eternally each other.
See Psalms 119 and God's word (Jesus) is referred to both as eternal (no beginning and no end) and the light - another attribute of Jesus. Think about it, God's word is the eternal light and the way. His Word has no beginning and no end. It's been a part of him-in his mind-forever. He knew he was going to create the universe, before he did. When God needed to be the savior of the world, He sent His word out from his mind to become flesh, and his son was born as Jesus. The Word WAS God (John 1:1) and a part of God (his word) became man to teach verbally to everyone the word of God, and then to die to save us from sin and give us the gift of everlasting life!!
There are many, many more scriptures pointing to the fact that God=Jesus=HS. Please let me know if you need more.
God Bless!
xo Anna
2007-04-09 04:38:20
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answered by ~♥Anna♥~ 5
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ISA 45:22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
Who is speaking in this verse?
Ex. 3:15 - And God said moreover to Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel: Jehovah, the God of your fathers.
Does Jehovah say to Moses that he has more then one personality? Does he say I am 3? Or I am we?
Exd 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM
“I Am” is a single persona.
What is meant at Gen 1:26 “And God said, Let us make man in our image?”
Jehovah has a helper. He does not create man alone. Heb 1:2 - but in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, “through whom also” he created the world.
Does John 1:1 mean Jesus is Jehovah?
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”
This can not be the case because the word “was God” past tense. Jehovah on the other hand is always God.
Ex 3:15 “This will be my name forever; it has always been my name.” Since Jesus never uses his father’s name it is clear they are not the same being.
If Jesus was not a God for even one second then he can not be a part of a God or a Trinity. Scriptures show while on Earth Jesus was not God and not a Trinity. (Jhn 14:28, Hbr 2:9, Luk 7:28)
2007-04-09 08:07:34
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answered by keiichi 6
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Jesus is the Son of God. While Jesus is often called the Son of God in the Bible, nobody in the first century ever thought of him as being God the Son. Even the demons, who "believe there is one God," knew from their experience in the spirit realm that Jesus was not God. So, correctly, they addressed Jesus as the separate "Son of God." (James 2:19; Matthew 8:29) And when Jesus died, the pagan Roman soldiers standing by knew enough to say that what they had heard from his followers must be right, not that Jesus was God, but that "certainly this was God's Son."—Matthew 27:54.
Hence, the phrase "Son of God" refers to Jesus as a separate created being, not as part of a Trinity. As the Son of God, he could not be God himself, for John 1:18 says: "No one has ever seen God."—RS, Catholic edition.
The disciples viewed Jesus as the "one mediator between God and men," not as God himself. (1 Timothy 2:5) Since by definition a mediator is someone separate from those who need mediation, it would be a contradiction for Jesus to be one entity with either of the parties he is trying to reconcile. That would be a pretending to be something he is not.
The Bible is clear and consistent about the relationship of God to Jesus. Jehovah God alone is Almighty. He created the prehuman Jesus directly. Thus, Jesus had a beginning and could never be coequal with God in power or eternity.
2007-04-11 16:15:04
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answered by LineDancer 7
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It's really important that our understanding of God doesn't come from our own heads (in the same way our understanding of the moon shouldn't be made up in our heads) but rather is built on what he's told and shown us in the Bible. Otherwise we're going to end up with a made up God. God is a paradox that can't fully fit in our heads - but I'm ok with that because God is bigger than my head. At the same time though it's pretty easy to outline the bible's view of God. Three points: - There is 1 God - The Son is God, the Father is God, the Holy Spirit is God - The Son is NOT the Father, the Father is NOT the Holy Spirit, and the HS is NOT the Son. There is 1 God (Deut 6:4 and Mark 12:29 - 'Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.') The Son is God - John 10:27: (jesus speaking) " 'My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. I and the Father are one.' The Jews picked up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, 'I have shown you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you going to stone me?; The Jews answered him, 'It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you but for blasphemy, because you, being a man, make yourself God.' " Heaps of others too as someone else has posted. the Father is God - Mark, etc :p the Holy Spirit is God - Jn 4:24 'God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth'. Or 2 Cor 3:17 'Now the Lord is the Spirit,..' 3 distinct beings, 1 God. It's important to point out that the distinctions are not in their value but in their relationship to each other (they even call each other 'Father', 'Son' and 'Spirit')! The Son is obedient to the Father, the Father glorifies the Son and the Spirit works pointing people to Jesus. This is a good passage for seeing these dynamics going in: John 8:12-59 (note the people's reaction at the end to Jesus' 'I AM' statement - they recognise what he's saying.) Biblical Christianity says that the Son is God, the Father is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, and that this is the way it has always been. Hard to understand, but this is the God of the bible. The reason I believe this is because God verified it by raising Jesus from the dead! That is the real cornerstone and foundation of my belief :) Cheers, Peter
2016-05-20 23:00:39
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answered by ? 3
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Jesus was created the almighty has always been here, these are the scriptures to prove it. then they say that was on earth but the other scriptures say even in heaven he is at the right hand of God.
(Colossians 1:15-17) . . .5 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16 because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All [other] things have been created through him and for him. 17 Also, he is before all [other] things and by means of him all [other] things were made to exist,
(Revelation 3:14) 14 “And to the angel of the congregation in La·o·di·ce´a write: These are the things that the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God,
(Acts 7:55) 55 But he, being full of holy spirit, gazed into heaven and caught sight of God’s glory and of Jesus standing at God’s right hand,
(Revelation 1:1) 1 A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. And he sent forth his angel and presented [it] in signs through him to his slave John,
(Revelation 7:10) 10 And they keep on crying with a loud voice, saying: “Salvation [we owe] to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb.”
2007-04-10 06:02:08
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answered by Steven 6
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In following up what Williamzo wrote:
14The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only,[d] who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
John Chapter 1 verse 14.
Jesus is the Word made flesh, and in the first versus of the same Gospel, the Word is God.
You obviously have not read one of the most crucial books of the Christian faith. If you had, then this would all make sense. I urge you to look into it with an open mind and heart. The truth is there for you to see. Try it. You'll find the answers you seek, and maybe even more.
Furthermore, in addition to Jesus being "The Word", do you also remember a passage from God the Father; "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased." At the same time, The Word (God) and The Son.
2007-04-09 02:26:33
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answered by sparc77 7
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It doesn't say that because it isn't true.
I find it rather amusing that people attempt to answer your question by means of scripture and are failing miserably. You notice that they point to a few that may allow the possibility for Jesus and God to be the same (John 1:1), assuming you're unfamiliar with the original Greek text and are already biased to the Trinitarian belief, but nobody can show a scripture that explicitly states that all 3 are 1 and the same.
So sad, everyone's been blinded by the "god of this system of things" ...
2007-04-09 03:36:33
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answered by DwayneWayne 4
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