Why does the whole enviornmental "global warming" issue remind me of the Vatican's control over Europe; 1500's

Question

I mean think about it;

The Copernican theory wasn't allowed by the Catholic church because it would discredit them.

Much like the enviornmental "communists" who don't allow for scientific fact to impede on their hypothesis' on global warming.

Fact: global warming and cooling have ALWAYS happened
Fact: global warming and cooling are shown to be cause by multiple factors including heat from the sun (wow, go figure!)
Fact: The cold war era communists are INDEED at the forefront of the enviornmental movement; every little bit of government controlled ANYTHING is fuel for their fire.
Fact: Unfortunately there ARE people who fall for this crap and who in their hearts do mean good; but sorry, you didn't do your homework kids.

My question is just to see who does and doesn't agree with this.....

Please watch the hostility by the way, thanks!

Answer 1

There have been tons of studies and a lot of scientists have agreed that there is a problem with the world changing so drastically. By drastically I mean that in the past millions and millions of years it usually takes many, many centuries for the world to change as much as it has in just a few decades. There have only been a few events that have changed the condition of the world more (or as) quickly as it's happening now, a good example would be the meteorite that hit the earth and "made the dinosaurs extinct" (it killed many but it mostly had an effect of changing the conditions of the environment so quickly that animals couldn't adapt). Today, it's not just warming, it's the whole state of the ecological system. The consequences wont happen like in that crap movie the Day After Tomorrow, but they will happen a lot more gradual. By gradual I mean that it will not be seen tomorrow, but many decades down the road. Although there are scientists that do not agree, there are many more that do. If you would like to read about this more there are many books about the subject (I don't have my books here and I'm too lazy to look for the titles on-line). I studied this subject in college, so I may not be the best source, but read some books and then come back with an educated opinion.

Answer 2

If it were like the Vatican's control over Europe in 1500's you would not have posted this question for fear of being brought up on charges of heresy. Global warming has been the subject of debate in both by the public and the scientific community for the last 20 years. The recent evidence the that earth is rapidly getting warmer is tipping the debate against the argument that the measured increase in CO2 will not effect the earth climate. It could be a coincidence, and natural causes are warming the earth on just the time scale predicted by climate models of CO2 warming. But unless there is a "natural" mechanism found that can account for the amount of warming, or the warming reverses, most scientists will believe it is due to CO2 increases. Scientists do not like to explain the occurrence of natural phenomena by arguing in favor of coincidence.

Answer 3

Here is another fact, humans do not like change. You are most likely younger so in your parent's youth, they were being told that they were going into an ice age. They got over that misconception now they are being told that all the glaciers are going to melt. To make things worse you have two very polarized groups saying extremes with very little middle ground when it comes to climate change.

Now on the scientific side. As a scientist I know pretty much everyone agrees that Global Warming is happening and we think humans have something to do with it, but we still have not figured out why the Earth goes through warm periods anytime in the Earth's history. If it followed the models we would be cold all the time.

Answer 4

The reason why is because man made global warming is a religion, and the prophet is Al Gore.

The reason it exists is because there are stupid people who will believe anything you say, as long as you talk bad about the whole of society. Your followers should:

A. not understand science (not willing to follow the scientific method)

B. not understand statistics (not realize that CO2 levels rise 800 AFTER temperature rises, and therefore cannot cause global warming)

C. have disdain for developing countries (not allowing them to have cheap fossil fuel sourced energy production)

D. Be an all around Narcissistic self-hating idiot.

There are your elements of a new global religion. Like it or not, they may be gaining ground.

And like all people defending their religion, they don't want to be told that they are wrong and they get angry, nasty and hateful if you tell them otherwise.

Thanks for your question, it was a fun one to answer. Cheers.

Answer 5

Dear poster, why dont you visit some polluted third world countries and have an first hand experience of pollution and global warming. You can then post questions on yahoo if you survive.

Answer 6

The problem with you theory is that it doesn't match the verified scientific data.

Nature recycles CO2 with the "carbon cycle". But it's a delicate balance. We're messing up the balance by digging up carbon the natural cycle buried thousands of years and burning it real fast.

The data here shows it clearly. The tiny teeth are the natural cycle, with plants absorbing it during summer, and a variety of natural sources increasing it in winter. The big curve up is us, burning fossil fuels.

http://scrippsco2.ucsd.edu/graphics_gall...

The data also shows clearly it isn't the sun. Solar increase is 0.12 watts per meter squared, man's warming is 1.6 watts per meter squared, more than ten times as much. Page 4 of this report. (Which is the best summary of the scientific data.)

http://www.ipcc.ch/spm2feb07.pdf...

You can't rely on logical arguments to understand global warming. You need to actually look at numerical data. Climate scientists do that, and the vast majority of them believe global warming is real. Actual data about that is here:

http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/fu...

Science is all about the data, not about who can argue words best. Or what the politics of the situation are. And the data clearly shows global warming is real and mostly caused by us. Which is why:

"the question of global warming was settled years ago for all but a few holdouts in the scientific community"

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity...

and why many conservatives and business leaders acknowledge that it's real. The following people are definitely not liberals or environmentalists. They're also not stupid enough to believe a lie. They're serious people and they have access to the best scientists in the world.

"The science of global warming is clear. We know enough to act now. We must act now."

James Rogers, CEO of Charlotte-based Duke Energy.

“With overwhelming scientific evidence that global warming is adversely impacting the health of our planet, the time has come for the Congress to take action.”

Senator Olympia Snowe, Republican, Maine

"The overwhelming majority of atmospheric scientists around the world and our own National Academy of Sciences are in essential agreement on the facts of global warming and the significant contribution of human activity to that trend."

Russell E. Train, Republican, former environmental official under Presidents Nixon and Ford

"I agree with you (Gore) that the debate over climate change is over."

Rep. Dennis Hastert, Republican, Illinois

"Global warming is real, now, and it must be addressed."

Lee Scott, CEO, Wal-Mart

"Our nation has both an obligation and self-interest in facing head-on the serious environmental, economic and national security threat posed by global warming."

Senator John McCain, Republican, Arizona

"I'm trying to learn [about greenhouse gases and global warming]. The more I learn, the bigger believer I become."

Senator Lindsay Graham, Republican, South Carolina

“DuPont believes that action is warranted, not further debate."

Charles O. Holliday, Jr., CEO, DuPont

"These technologies will help us become better stewards of the environment - and they will help us to confront the serious challenge of global climate change."

President George Bush

Answer 7

I agree with you. But I still believe in trying to be as environmentally sound as I can be.