Christian witchcraft?

Question

After joining Answers and reading posts from various users in R&S, I've recently came across several mentions of Christian witchcraft.

Is this something 'new' or a progress in the Wiccan society? I barely heard of this since I came to know about the teachings of Wiccan-based practices/pagan/neo-pagan.

Wasn't it that the Christian concept of God and religion are all out against the Wiccan society? How and when did this evolved into 'Christian Witchcraft'?

Yeah yeah I know Christianity forbids it and witchcraft is not based on Christianity vice versa.

I am talking about the most recent posts that I have read.

Shall we also 'drop' Wicca for a moment and talk about witchcraft as a subject?

This is an interesting question, which I can't help amusing myself to think of it too.

Also, is this phenomena the same as those absorbed ancient African/European/Asian traditions into Christianity?

As for funnana, what has God to do with the Devil you ask? According to the Bible, he was one of God's fallen angel, also a child of God, you might want to remember this...

Answer 1

Christian Witchcraft is just what a fraction of a fraction of Christians do...

In some forms it is like the Early Black Magic from the Islands... like Haiti and Spanish Catholic based stuff... YOu can get spell candles with Catholic saints on them... and you can get Tarot cards with biblical images as well...
It certainly does not mean that all Christians use these things - only that SOME people do...

But also, there are new age metaphysics that incorporate the teachings of Christ... but not the bible itself... Actually from what I've read - Christian Science isn't totally out of this realm.

What people need to understand is that there were times throughout history that Christians actually helped various pagan groups to form their practices in an effort to make it easier for them to convert to Christianity...

Strange customs were formed and carried on...

You do know that a Christmas Tree was a Pagan ritual first, right?
And the Easter Egg was something the Greeks painted as they were feeding Christians to the lions... but they called it a rebirth egg... a tribute to the Goddesses that oversaw the springtime flowers and baby animals....

So given those little tidbits, there are actually quite a bit of Christian Witches, wouldn't you say?

But most Christians frown on taking personal power or magic and not consulting with God... they believe that most forms of witchcraft are sinful.

As a side note - Terry the "Top Contributor" below could not have been born before Wicca was an organized religion... he must be referring to when the U.S. finally accepted that it exists...

Answer 2

There ARE Christian Witches (not Wiccan, to clear that up). So it is certainly not a new concept. To learn more try googling it and you will come across a few sites.
Rabble obviously cannot read. Terry said he was NOT Wiccan therefore he may have been born before Wicca was recognized, I was too! But I, myself, have only been practicing witchcraft (again NOT WICCA) for about 42 years. My family has witch/pagan roots. My mother was a witch (in the 40's) and my great grandfather was a Comanche Medicine Man (pagan) in the 1800's.
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Answer 3

I am of the crafts, but not Wiccan. I was born before Wicca became an organized religion and has no connection with the Lore. It is the Christians and their church who coined the word witch for those in the crafts.

Now, of the crafts. Why should a person not become a herbalist? Why should a person not become a midwife? Why should a person not become a bone setter? Why should a person not become a dowser? Why should a person not become adept of divination if the talent is there? Why should a person not be a keeper of groves? Why should a person not become a maker of potions?

Why have all these crafts been called Witchcraft and caused those who followed them to be tortured and murdered.

Why do you ask if Christian can follow Christian witchcraft? Take your Witch word away and the craft is many crafts to help Humans, Animals, and Trees. The hate and fear of Christians is the only thing standing in front of many Christians who could do good for all if not forbidden and labelled by such as you.

Answer 4

Witchcraft(Black Magic) will attract to you a very bad Karma the next life. Witchcraft is earnest punished than suicide. It is against the Holy Spirit.

Magic(that can be White or Black, depending on what purpose you have,what instruments you use and how you make the prayer) is the manipulation of energies in nature.

Black Magic: Voodoo, Witchcraft, curses, Sorcery,....
White Magic: Shamanism, Teurgy, ...

White Magic uses: Normal cross,sanctified instruments, candle put in a normal position when lit, praying to Holy Spirit or Masters of Medicine, normal pentagram, etc.


Black Magic uses: all of the above but INVERTED.

Inverted Pentagram:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2b/Inverted_Pentagram_circumscribed.svg/2000px-Inverted_Pentagram_circumscribed.svg.png

Inverted cross: http://i1.cpcache.com/product_zoom/264652497/inverted_cross_dog_tshirt.jpg?height=250&width=250&padToSquare=true

Inverted candle:
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121114214745/sonic/images/9/93/Inverted_Candle.png


Do not try something even if someone tells you it's white magic what he wants to teach you, because he might use black magic and trick you, it's risky. I am in an esoteric school and gained some experience that is why I know now what is good or bad.

Answer 5

Actually, I've spoken to a number of Christian / Wiccans, and typically find that those who try to mix the two generally do so with a significant shift in Christian views from those of orthodox Christianity. While they may follow some of the teachings of Christ, they generally don't hold to the views that many churches do, nor do they take a remotely literal view of the gospels or the Bible in general. Some actually hold a polytheistic view, with Mary as Goddess, and they don't hold the trinitarian view of Christianity.

Witchcraft is a bit different, and doesn't necessarily involve religion, but you seemed to be indicating Wicca more. Hope this helps.

--Dee

Answer 6

I have not heard the term Christian witchcraft. There are things that happen of a spiritual nature that are part of every religion. In this way Christianity shares some things with Wicca. Is this what you have heard? There are things that Christian Saints have done that are also seen outside of the church as occult. They are not considered 'witchcraft' by the church. They are gifts of the spirit.

PS. A note about C.J.'s post. He says that Christianity and Wicca is like mixing earth and water. What if it were (Christian) fire and (Wicca) water? Do you know what that makes? It makes God and the sign is the sign of David. I am a Christian Alchemist.

Answer 7

Christian witchcraft is not a movement within Wicca -- it is a movement within Christianity. Christianity and Wicca don't play well together, for reasons well outlined in the following article:

http://wicca.timerift.net/christianwicca.shtml

Witchcraft, however, is a technique in the same way that prayer is a technique, and is practiced in many different religious traditions, including Christianity and Judaism:

http://paganwiccan.about.com/od/christianwitches/Christian_Witchcraft_Christian_Wicca.htm

http://www.lilitu.com/jap/

So yes, there are people who are Christian witches (regardless of what other Christians have to say on the subject), but as far as I can tell, finding a true Christian Wiccan would be darned hard if not impossible.

EDITED TO ADD: In response to †Hayden† †Lyfe†'s post, which stated that "wicca has always accepted "christian witches" since Gavin and Yvonne Frost started it back in the fifties"... er, the Frosts did NOT start Wicca by a long shot, and in fact are considered by some to be on the fringe of the religion. Gerald Gardner was the founder. Evidently you need to do some reading -- I highly recommend "The Triumph of the Moon" by Ronald Hutton as a non-Wiccan historian's account of the rise of modern Pagan witchcraft.

Answer 8

Recently there has been a strong emphasis on trying to disassociate Wicca with witchcraft. This is just like shooting holes in a boat to let the water out. It is very silly and extremely irritating, which is of course why they do it.

Witchcraft is extremely vile and evil, always was, and always shall be. Some wiccans today like to say that their particular brand of witchcraft is no such thing, that it is all things precious and sparkly, and then they love to paint all witchcraft as being this way. The fact is, they are doing whatever they are doing, and if it, for whatever reason, turns out to not be witchcraft, then it is not witchcraft. Why call themselves wiccans and not practice witchcraft is beyond me, but that is what they claim.

In fact, they are practicing witchcraft usually, and it is usually sugar coated and stripped of a lot of punch and its pungent odor is often masked. Some people go for the sugar coating and the perfume, leaving out the heart and purpose, and of course when one does that, it can look and seem an awful lot like the really nice stuff -- such as Christianity for instance.

Christianity is of course the opposite. However, a lot of what Christianity is about is like heathfood -- stuff that tastes not so good, but is really good for you. A lot of people do not like that either, so they go for the really tasty stuff, the nice flavors, the sugars, and so on. They like to leave out the heart and soul of Christianity and live a life that seems good to them.

If you look at these people, who have obviously made themselves their own god, where all decisions on what is moral and not moral (sin or not sin) rest upon themselves, you can see how they would go for the sappy Wiccan flavors, or the worthless, so-called Christianity type religions and you should be able to see how close they look.

Sugar coated, watered-down poison "here", candied coated nothing "there", and they mix them together. One is coming from the toxic waste dumps of a chemical warfare factory and the other is coming from the reject bins of a bakery. Kind of reminds me of mines for some reason, like little bombs cleverly hidden to explode when someone steps on them.

Christian witchcraft exists, it is deceitful, it is like a hidden mine, it will kill, hurt, maim, and do damage, maybe not a whole lot, just to the people who are around when it goes off.

Answer 9

There are a few links that explain the views of Christian Witchcraft more commonly known as Christo-Wicca. I cannot refer you to a "good" site as I have no experience with the topic at hand.

Answer 10

I am only learning about Wicca, but, Wicca will not discriminate against christians, but christians discriminate against Wicca. The answer above ...will not suffer a witch kill them all, shows you who has love in their hearts!
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