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Most Christians tell me that the Jews insist to punish Jesus because he preached Trinity.But you don't believe in it(Trinity).What is your version of the crucifixion story?

2007-03-17 18:33:07 · 9 answers · asked by naz 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Candle in the wind, Cathy, and Augustine, OMG, please get ur facts straight B4 u speak; ignorance is SO unattractive. The Jews punished Jesus because he (correctly) claimed to be the Son of the Most High God, Jehovah. He never claimed to be the same person. All Jesus did was say that he was God's Son, and the Pharisees and other religious leaders used that to build a false legal case against him. Knowing that emperor worship was the in thing 2 do during Roman rule, they accused Jesus of making himself a god/divine being, which would detract from the worship normally directed to Caesar. The charge was sedition; Jesus was accused of trying to lead the Jews in a revolt of sorts against the Roman Empire. They therefore executed him as a criminal, unwittingly serving the interests of the bloodthirsty religious leaders of the Jewish community.
Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe in the Trinity in any way, shape, or form, and this concept is not expressed anywhere in the Bible. Jehovah is the Almighty. Jesus is His Son and Master Worker. The Holy Spirit is Jehovah's Active Force, the means by which His will is accomplished.

2007-03-17 19:02:51 · answer #1 · answered by DwayneWayne 4 · 2 1

JW's believe in the trinity but not in the way some do. They believe that yes there is God the father God the Son (Jesus) God the Holy Ghost (or spirit) They are each different but the same and are one. But that God, Jehovah, is the first, Jesus is second and the Holy Ghost is third. Others believe that the trinity is all one and can not be with out each other. JW's believe that God, Jehovah, is one and needs no one or nothing else to be.

They believe in the the Crucifixion but only that Jesus was put on a stake and not a cross.

2007-03-17 18:43:23 · answer #2 · answered by LadyCatherine 7 · 0 3

The Latin word crux was applied to the simple pole, and indicated directly the nature and purpose of this instrument, being derived from the verb crucio, "to torment", "to torture" (Isid., Or., V, xvii, 33; Forcellini, s. vv. Crucio, Crux)

Here is the Catholic encyclopedia trying to explain the Trinity see if you can understand it. Go to their web site. http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15047a.htm
And according to the RS bible “God is not a God of confusion.”—1 Corinthians 14:33, Revised Standard Version (RS).

Three different views/beliefs/versions of the trinity, a few before Christ.

THE DOGMA OF THE TRINITY
1. The Trinity is the term employed to signify the central doctrine of the Christian religion -- the truth that in the unity of the Godhead there are Three Persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, these Three Persons being truly distinct one from another. Thus, in the words of the Athanasian Creed: "the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, and yet there are not three Gods but one God."

The Triad of the Great Gods”
2. Many centuries before the time of Christ, there were triads, or trinities, of gods in ancient Babylonia and Assyria. The French “Larousse Encyclopedia of Mythology” notes one such triad in that Mesopotamian area: “The universe was divided into three regions each of which became the domain of a god. Anu’s share was the sky. The earth was given to Enlil. Ea became the ruler of the waters. Together they constituted the triad of the Great Gods.”

Hindu Trinity
3. The book “The Symbolism of Hindu Gods and Rituals” says regarding a Hindu trinity that existed centuries before Christ: “Siva is one of the gods of the Trinity. He is said to be the god of destruction. The other two gods are Brahma, the god of creation and Vishnu, the god of maintenance. . . . To indicate that these three processes are one and the same the three gods are combined in one form.”—Published by A. Parthasarathy, Bombay.

2007-03-17 21:37:23 · answer #3 · answered by just cruzin' 1 · 1 0

Jesus made no claims at any time to be God. He always directed praise and worship to his father, Jehovah. The reason those Jews wanted Jesus to die was not because he claimed to be part of a Trinity. The Jewish religious leaders felt threatened by the way the people listened to him and they worried that he would draw people away from them. When they presented their case to have Jesus executed before Pontius Pilate, they were desperate to bring out any evidence that would incriminate him. But even so, here is the charge they made against him: "... according to the law he ought to die, because he made himself God's son." (John 19:7) Even those wicked men did not go so far as to lie and say that Jesus had claimed to be God. That Jesus had never claimed to be God himself was a well-known fact.

And for the record, NO ONE who is really one of Jehovah's Witnesses believes in any form of the Trinity. The holy spirit isn't even a person! And we absolutely DO believe in Jesus as the son of God and our King and Leader, but not equal to God by any means.

2007-03-17 19:05:37 · answer #4 · answered by shibboleth839505 2 · 2 0

If you want the answer first hand then instead of shutting the door or saying not interested to Jehovah's Witnesses who come to visit you then why not actually ask them what they believe.
So many people will ask everyone else either a man or his dog who has no connection to Jehovah's Witnesses or no knowledge about their faith as some of the answers already here have proved (especially the first 3 and the one below me) but will refuse to want to talk to the very people themselves who are Jehovah's Witnesses.
When Jehovah's Witnesses call then take the opportunity to get answers to your questions and learn the truths instead of the lies that some people enjoy spreading around.

2007-03-17 19:07:19 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Jesus, according to JWs, is not the Son of God, 2nd person of the Trinity, or the Messiah/Christ. He was actually a created being, originally Michael the Archangel and them morphed into the man Jesus. The crucifixion would therefore hold no real value.

Think about this one..... Jesus founded the "Church". JWs do not have a "Church", but believe only in GOD, no Trinity, and hold their worship services in a "Kingdom Hall". They never use the word "Church".

2007-03-17 18:43:45 · answer #6 · answered by Augustine 6 · 1 3

JW's reject the Christian Trinitarian doctrine, as well as many other orthodox Christian doctrines.

I have found the non-Christian religions, such as Jehovah Witnesses, to be philosophically indefensible, being internally incoherent or undermining human reason and experience. To better understand Jehovah Witnesses, I suggest you review the following site:

http://www.carm.org/witnesses.htm

The Watchtower quotes from old versions of the Catholic Encyclopedia to support their disbelief of the Trinity. But the Watchtower is misquoting the actual text from the 1912, and 1965 editions of the Encyclopedias.

See:
http://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Catholic.htm

2007-03-17 19:12:39 · answer #7 · answered by Ask Mr. Religion 6 · 0 3

‘But,’ you say, ‘my Bible actually states that Jesus died on a cross.’ And, in reality, many Bible translations do use the word “cross.” But what word did the original Bible writers use? There are two Greek words used for the executional instrument on which Christ died—staurós and xýlon. The authoritative Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible gives as the primary meaning for staurós “a stake or post,” and for xýlon “timber,” “tree” or “wood.” The New Bible Dictionary says: “The Gk. word for ‘cross’ (staurós, verb stauróo) means primarily an upright stake or beam, and secondarily a stake used as an instrument for punishment and execution.”

The Latin word used for the instrument on which Christ died was crux which, according to Livy, a famous Roman historian of the first century C.E., means a mere stake. The Cyclopædia of Biblical, Theological, and Ecclesiastical Literature says that the crux simplex was a “mere stake ‘of one single piece without transom [crossbar].’”

In confirmation of this, appendix No. 162 of The Companion Bible states concerning staurós that it “denotes an upright pale or stake, to which the criminals were nailed for execution. . . . It never means two pieces of timber placed across one another at any angle, but always of one piece alone.” (Italics theirs.) The appendix concludes: “The evidence is thus complete, that the Lord was put to death upon an upright stake, and not on two pieces of timber placed at any angle.”

With its roots in ancient pagandom, and the evidence that Christ was not impaled on the traditional cross, nor did the early Christians use such a symbol, one is led to this conclusion: The cross is not really Christian.

It takes courage to break away from an entrenched religious tradition originating in the mists of pagan antiquity. A good example of such a break is in the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures, which renders staurós as “torture stake” and the verb stauróo as “impale,” not “crucify.” This frees from all taint of paganism the precious sacrifice that our Lord and Savior made.

How will this knowledge affect you in relation to venerating and displaying or wearing a cross, or making the sign of the cross? The apostle Paul urged Christians to “flee from idolatry.” (1 Corinthians 10:14) The apostle John added: “Guard yourselves from idols.” (1 John 5:21) So one seeking to worship God would want to be very careful to avoid putting worshipful or superstitious trust in idols of “silver and gold, the work of the hands of earthling man.”—Psalm 115:4, 8, 11.

A fine example was set by those in ancient Ephesus who, heeding the preaching by the apostle Paul and finding that the items they used were not in harmony with true Christianity, brought them together “and burned them up before everybody.” (Acts 19:18, 19) After all, why cherish and adore the instrument that was supposedly used to murder the Lord Jesus Christ?

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2007-03-17 18:51:59 · answer #8 · answered by papavero 6 · 1 0

I'm not a Jehovas Witness but have a friend who is...they do NOT believe in Jesus Christ, so there would have been no crucifixion it their belief

2007-03-17 18:36:52 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 5

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