Here is my story to compare Christianity these days:
There is a kid, lets call him TJ, who nobody knows where he came from (created or evolved?) and he has been living from foster home to foster home (representing many generations). A story of his past has been passed to each foster home, if the story has been passed intact or if it had changed slightly after each home, is not known.
TJ has a father, but not a mother.
The father lives in a great place where he and his people never know any worries.
If TJ believes this story blindly, he will move w his father and be happy ever after, if not he will be sent to a really bad place, where he will starve and be eaten alive by a pack of hyenas or worse.
Father never sends anything to prove his existence: never sends a letter, birthday present, child support. However, TJ is always told that his father loves him immensely. When he does well in school or wins a sport, he is told because father helped him, underming his own efforts
2007-03-17
17:33:43
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Questions regarding this story:
Would you really blame TJ if he didn’t believe such a far-fetched story? After all, we are told that we were created by a god, that in all Christian books is referred as a male identity. If god created us as his image, then why he created the female capable of producing life and not the male?
Would you call TJ’s father a deadbeat dad, or a good caring father? If his dad really loved him, would he send him to get eaten by lions and suffer, even tho he never showed up and proved him that he existed?
2007-03-17
17:34:13 ·
update #1
Sorry, Jesus is not considered "proof", is not something tangible. No proof that he resucitated, or that random bones found are his, I can't shake his hands...
I went to catholic high school, i've read the bible. This scenario has actually been lingering in my head for a while, not something I just came up bc have nothing else to do.
Basically, we are "forced" to believe: if we don't, according to religion, we go to hell. Not to mention that I can't talk w any christian friend that know im agnotist without trying to convince me.
If god really loves us, he will not allow us to go to hell if we have our doubts, after all, he hasn't come down and said hi to me personally. Not totally our fault if we have our doubts. If he does allow us to rott in hell, then his description is not true and the whole base of christianity false.
2007-03-17
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That's a really good point overall. If God is so merciful and loving, and wants us all to be Christians or we go to hell, then why wouldn't God show up every generation or so, appear to everyone, do a couple of miracles, sign a few copies of the Bible, heal the nations, and then take off for heaven again? That would make much more sense. I know I know, God does it the way God wants to do it - and it's about faith. In the end, it would still take faith even if God did come down, and some people still wouldn't believe, but I guarantee you a hell of a lot more people would.
God, if God exists, probably doesn't care which religion a person chooses or is born into. It matters more what a person does with their life and how they treat others. The argument for God as presented in the Bible is often circular and nonsensical. Imagine if a parent treated their child this way. God really does little as it concerns saving others. We are just presented with a lot of different religions and we have to be careful to pick the right one, or else. Kind of silly really.
2007-03-17 17:42:55
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answered by Tukiki 3
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If I may be picky, there seems to be one little flaw in your analogy: TJ would have good reason to believe that he actually *has* a father - though whether he's really the exalted entity suggested is open to question.
Perhaps you could posit TJ as having a perfectly normal prospective father somewhere in the wings, who claims to have scientific proof that he's TJ's true parent. But that proof is a page full of complex DNA comparison data, and most people neither understand it nor wish to take the time to do so.
So instead TJ is constantly told of his wonderful absentee father, of which no trace can be found, and warned of terrible consequences if he doesn't swallow the story. He may even be called upon to fight - perhaps die - in the name of this improbable SuperDad, because he's assured that that's what Dad wants him to do.
And all the while his other father is writing books, going on television and appearing in newspapers, showing the scientific basis for his paternity claim. Those who understand DNA tests, or take the time to look at the data, agree that his evidence is watertight. But ordinary folk simply characterise the whole issue as an evil attempt to kidnap TJ for nefarious purposes.
Oops - I'm writing your story. Sorry. Carry on.
CD
2007-03-18 00:49:21
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answered by Super Atheist 7
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The Father sent a letter, it's called the Bible. He showed up in person- Jesus Christ. He gave the best present of all- eternal life through His grace and sacrifice. He sends child support- the Holy Spirit dwells within us and is our help.
Believing the story will not get T.J. to his Father. He has to accept the gifts, too.
If you doubt the authenticity of this "story," check out a couple of books: "More Than a Carpenter" by Josh McDowell, and "The Case for Christ" by Lee Strobel.
Check it out; If I'm wrong, what do you have to lose? If I'm right, you have everything to lose.
PS- Females don't produce life by themselves, the males are just as much a part of it. Females just incubate the life. It's a really neat picture of God and His church, He plants His spirit and it is incubated in his Church.
2007-03-17 17:54:12
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answered by thankful 3
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Oh but that is where the problem rests. See God doesn't ask us to believe in him based on the fact that there's a story written of him, called the Holy Bible. Many people think that and thus mistakenly use the "2000 year old book" as their reason for not believing. No friend, all God asks you to do is trust him once! If you're woman/man enough to place all your faith in him just one true time, I assure you that the "2000 year old stories" will come alive in your heart and mind.
2007-03-17 17:41:51
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answered by Heaven's Messenger 6
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It makes me angry that people suggest that you read the bible as an answer to your very well worded question...
To answer this question would not be blasphemy for a christian... it is a perfectly legitimate question.
My answer - is hell no, we would call TJ's father a deadbeat dad... that is why these strange people who support TJ's dad would be called Christians and why normal society would be comprised of everyone else who had other ideas.
Nice metaphor! (something the "others" still don't quite catch on to even though their book is full of these)
2007-03-17 17:46:04
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answered by rabble rouser 6
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No one expects you to believe blindly. However you might try learning something, reading the Bible and making an informed decision
2007-03-17 17:37:45
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answered by Anonymous
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If you don't believe in God, don't believe in God. Who is twisting your arm? That being said, if you don't buy the idea of God or faith, why are you making up this long, drawn out analogy of God? Wouldn't you just accept what you don't believe and move on? Methinks you have too much time on your hands.
2007-03-17 17:39:58
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answered by Anonymous
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hello, God sent us the greatest gift of all. Jesus. Your story is way off and makes no sense at all. I would say sorry, but I am not.
2007-03-17 17:38:36
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answered by JesusLovesMe! 3
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We are not expected to believe blindly. It is God's promise that we find Him when ve truly seek Him. And He keeps His promises. : )
2007-03-17 17:40:16
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answered by SeeTheLight 7
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We are expected to believe "Top Contributors"
Get with the Nazi program!
If you belive the "Tcs". we are all doomed!
Fight back!
2007-03-17 17:55:38
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answered by oldster 5
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