Have you been watching what is going on in the states?

Question

http://www.ilw.com/articles/2007,0319-adams.shtm

"Following landmark immigration legislation affecting employers in Colorado and Georgia, a host of other states have launched their own attempts at immigration control. The bills run the gamut from initiatives that are little more than an amen chorus for existing federal law, to those that attempt to mandate worker verification programs and impose stiff penalties against employers that hire illegal workers. Some more notable reform attempts involving employers are those in Utah, Arizona, Missouri and South Carolina. "

There is a discussion of the law proposals in the article.

What do you think?

cora, you have said that before and I disagree with your interpretation.

cora, it is either one or the other, either sanctuary laws are preempted or states can regulate the impact of illegal immigration in their routine hirings and approvals. I think we need more case law.

grdnovitz, I think the no renting type ordinances may have trouble, but making employers use the Federal voluntary database? That seems fair game to me.

Ans3r3r -LOL! Except in this case there is conflicting text, so the law won't be 'wrote' until the court rules on it.

Answer 1

Coragryph is right to a point regarding, under current federal laws, states and cities are forbidden from enforcing federal immigration laws or discriminating against people based on their immigration status. But Coragryph failed to state that all laws can be challenged and reversed, the challenge can begin by the fact the illegal aliens are not immigrants they are illegal aliens. And if the States impose their own laws, they are not imposing Federal laws, but only State laws. And by the States efforts to apply certain laws regarding illegal aliens, the challenge has begun! These challenges can help the desire to change our current Federal Laws. Arizona is a good State to watch, and so are Utah, MIssouri, South Carolina, Georgia and Colorado. We just need the other 44 States to do the same. We need to prove to our Government that their lack of effort to impose the current laws against illegals, is causing a backlash, and making all the individual States to stand up, create their OWN laws and be noticed. If the States try to impose Federal law word for word they are in violation, but if they create their OWN laws, in their own words, then no violation is created.
The challenge is up to us the Citizens of the U.S.!
Anyone out there ready to take the challenge, I sure in the HE11 am ready, how about the rest of you?

Answer 2

I think something needs to be done by SOMEONE about all the illegal aliens that are here...it will only get worse now that Mexican trucks can go where ever they want in these United States. If the Federal Government wont do their job, then that will fall on the States to do their job.

Answer 3

I've heard of states that are trying to get stiffer penalties in place. The really good one is in Texas - get rid of anchor babies (no auto citizenship). This will end up in the Supreme Court where we can hopefully get this issue resolved - the illegal alien criminals will loose one of their incentives to come here.

I just wish CA would do something instead of catering to a bunch of criminals. Arnold is a joke!

Answer 4

pondering the reality that it form of feels like the BCS loves USC, i doesn't be bowled over to ensure them taking area in Ohio State. i imagine of USC ought to win. they offer the effect of being unstoppable precise now. i imagine of LSU could be in in spite of if. They gained the SEC % out. The video games they lost took different overtimes. i imagine of LSU ought to conquer Ohio State as well.

Answer 5

Under current federal laws, states and cities are forbidden from enforcing federal immigration laws or discriminating against people based on their immigration status.

Like it or not, that's the current law. If people don't like the law, and think states should be able to regulate immigration, then they need to lobby Congress to change current federal laws.

But until federal laws are changed, these state efforts are going to result in little more than tons of legal challenges.

EDIT: You are welcome to disagree with my interpretation. But what I'm saying is what numerous federal courts have held so far in similar situations. So, believe what you will.

Answer 6

I live in Dallas. Farmers Branch, a suburb, recently passed an ordinance fining rentors who leased apartments to them. They also made English their official language. The Hispanics are sueing. I am curious to see what happens.

I, personally, am sick of their increasing numbers. I do not have any appreciation for a culture which practices no birth control, is filthy, steals, speaks no English, and refuses to learn, and brings illegal drugs into my country.

Answer 7

They are unconstitutional because of federal preemption, if no t for being descriminatory based on national origin. I understand the states desire to do something, but these laws are no the right way. I believe they will be overturned in federal court. However, the real objective, scaring Latinos and getting them to move to another state, is probably going to work.

Answer 8

It's illegal for States and other institutions to enforce Federal Immigration laws.

Illegal is illegal, and they should not be doing that.

Answer 9

i think it's great. i wonder how long Alabama will follow.
DAR from reading some of these post i can see alot of people don't know the Constitution. it is up to the individual states to make their own laws. and enforce them.

Answer 10

I personally feel that our Government is not strict enough by using its boarder patrol agents to send back its illegal aliens!!!!