I was just wondering what it is that this poor little breed of dog ever did to so many people that it is necessary to speak sooo badly of them.
How on earth do you think new breeds of dogs are developed.....by mixing two breeds together over time, until a standard is met. This adorable sweet breed has done nothing but be lovely, and pick up an unfortunately cutesy name.
I asked a question concerning my little lady having a litter before I have her spayed and I was flooded with responses to give up the thought for every reason from, the pups have no WORTH....to my dog will get cancer.
It was made very clear to me that it is not ok to breed a litter of pups unless they can be registered with the AKC and sold for at least a grand each......it was also made clear that pregnancy causes cancer and urinary tract infections, unless of course your female has papers, or is it just that the female is expendable due to the $$ value of pups. Has anyone else gotten this idea?
2007-03-17
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I was prepared to do the necessary prep work, I already had a number of friends ask for a pup if I decided to let my girl have a litter.....I'm not irresponsible, and none of this was about $$ for me. I would have made gifts of these pups. I was made to feel that my dog had no worth and never should have been born herself because she is not a purebred. FYI each of her parents are AKC registered...Beagle female, Pug male
2007-03-17
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just a note 2 days ago I priced a purebred english bull pup...$2800.this is an insane price, not just puppy mills charge these amounts this was a well known breeder
2007-03-17
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Because by breeding a puggle, you are intentionally bringing more mutts into this world, which is the last thing anyone needs. Millions upon millions of dogs, mostly mutts, are put down in shelters every year because they have no home.
Yes, a puggle IS a mutt, and no, breeding breed A to breed B to get breed C is NOT how dog breeds have traditionally been created. It sounds like more research is required on your part regarding how breeds come about.
Also, I think it's important for you to understand that a lot of people are against the breeding of ANY dog by an amateur. This is how unwanted and unhealthy puppies are created. As for your dog getting cancer, yes, by letting her have a litter before spaying her, she has a good chance of developing cancer in her reproductive organs. I don't care if she's a purebred from champion lines; it's just as much of a risk with purebreds as it is with mutts. By spaying and not breeding at all on the other hand, you virtually eliminate these chances. Also, it should go without saying that pregnancy DOES sometimes lead to complications, infections, and sometimes the death of the mother and the pups. This goes for puggles, and ANY dog or cat of any breed, purebred or not.
People don’t like designer breeds because it supports the idea that it is perfectly fine to intentionally churn out mutts. It has nothing to do with the dogs themselves. Most of the people who responded, however harsh they were, honestly had your well-being, the health of your dog, and the overpopulation crisis in mind. No one wants your dog to get cancer. No one wants more mutts to fill the already full shelters. It was harsh but honest advice.
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EDIT: Most mutts DO come from two purebred dogs. That has nothing to do with anything. “AKC registered” absolutely does not mean a dog is a quality example of their breed (even the AKC web site states this), or free of genetic health problems, it simply means the dog is a purebred.
Most people have nothing against mutts themselves, but against more and more mutts being born into the world. A whopping 75% of dogs in shelters are mutts. Walk into any animal shelter and look around with the knowledge that many of the dogs staring back at you started out as someone’s bright idea, “Hey, we have two dogs! Lets breed them!” and will be dead in a matter of weeks because no one adopted them. THAT is why people are against the breeding of mutts.
People don’t like the idea of your dog existing because she came about because of an irresponsible breeder. No responsible breeder would intentionally create a mutt. It isn’t about your dog specifically, since no one here has ever met your dog, but about the idea itself.
Anyway, no matter how careful you are, there is still the health of your dog to think about. No one is saying your dog will get cancer because she’s mixed, or from breeding, but from leaving her *intact*. If you spay only after breeding her, the health benefits of spaying will already be lost. You only reduce the chances of cancer if you spay before breeding, or ever better, before the first heat. Even life-long breeders lose dogs to complications and cancer. Imagine watching her slowly die from a cancer you could have prevented! Imagine her dying from complications of the birth! These terrible thoughts have encouraged me to always spay. I couldn't live with myself if I knew I was responsible for taking her life.
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EDIT: Just thought I'd share this one last thing. Years ago, my uncle lost a dog he loved like his own child because he didn’t spay her. He loved her so much that he wanted one of her puppies, to keep that little part of her, so he bred her.
The poor thing had tumors the size of golf balls. The worst part is that this cancer would have been prevented if he had never bred her and spayed her at the proper time. Seeing her in so much pain from something he might have been able to prevent tore him apart, and to this day, he still can't bear to get another dog.
I just don’t want to see any dog or owner ever have to go through something like that.
2007-03-17 12:57:35
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answered by Mandy 7
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The problem with a Puggle is the fact that a Beagle and a Pug should not be crossed for one thing. This cross has created some very serious defects and health concerns.
As for mixes forming breeds yes that is true, however when these breeds were trying to be established the people developing the breed had a clear cut idea already of what they needed for a standard and had a clear goal in mind, so very unlike the mixing going on now. There is no valid reason to try to develop a "new" breed any longer with over 350 different breeds in the US alone. This doesn't include all other recognized breeds.The developing new breed and all dogs started as crosses excuse is just that a flimsy excuse to justify irresponsible breeding...as for a dog having to be AKC, UKC or CKC (Canadian Kennel Club) well just because a dog does have papers from one of these legit registries does in no way mean the dog should be bred it only means that dog is purebred. Only 10% of all purebreds should ever be bred.
Breeding even under the most expereinced of circumstances puts a dog at risk. Leaving a dog intact puts it at risk.. you weren't told that pregnancy causes cancer but rather leaving your dog intact increases the risk of mammary cancer, reproductive cancers and a very serious uterine infection called pyometria. This infection is often fatal.
A Puggle is NOT a breed..it is what it is a mix.
2007-03-17 14:35:47
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answered by Great Dane Lover 7
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Maybe some of the replies you received were harsh. But the reality is that most dogs are NOT adopted - even purebreds. A whopping 90% of dogs wind up in shelters, and about 25-30% of those are purebreds! Even those who are adopted as pups may eventually go to a shelter because too many people think of their pets as "disposable".
Hence, many responsible pet owners are trying to dissuade you from breeding your dog unless you know what you're doing and know that you can sell the pups to responsible homes. Adding more dogs to the world because you can is never a good idea, unless you are prepared. Admittedly, some decent breeders still fail to give their pups shots, declaw them (if suitable) or have papers available, but if the chances of these pups being sold are high, then all these breeders see are $$. Sometimes this is O.K. I've purchased two pups from such breeders. One lived a long life and I was so happy to have him. The other is still a pup, but a sweetheart. But this was a gamble on my part as well as that of the breeder.
My advice to you is make sure you read all you can and talk to other breeders (online if none are in your area). Then breed properly and be prepared for all outcomes.
Good luck!
2007-03-17 12:58:46
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answered by doctoru2 4
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I think people get upset when they hear that people are breeding mixed breed dogs because there are already so many in animal shelters. And there is a lot more that goes into creating a new dog breed than just mixing to breeds and giving it a fancy name, and this is happening more and more. If no one buys these puppies then they will just end up in the animal shelter, like a lot of other mixed breed dogs. Also, when someone is paying a lot of money to buy a mixed breed puppy from a breeder is it taking the place of a mixed breed puppy who is in a shelter, and will be euthanized if it doesn't find a home. I think that is why people get so upset to hear people breeding mixed breed dogs. This is my opinion. THere are sooo many unwanted dogs who need homes. I think breeding should be left to the experienced breeders, who know what they are doing, have done all the research, and are truly trying to create more stable dogs. Rather than someone who just wants to create a cute puppy and make a few bucks off of it. I'm not saying anything about you, I don't know how experienced you are in breeding, or how much you Know about breeding. But this is how I feel about it.
2007-03-17 12:48:10
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answered by Stark 6
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I will always say that it is a bad idea to breed your dog regardless of breed or lack there of. The reason being is that many people think it will be "fun" and have no idea about what to do and don't take the time(or spend the money) to learn what to do and how to respond to problems that can come about. Also, there are so many animals that are desperately in need of homes that it is truly unfair for anyone to bring more animals into the world when we have a population control problem as it is.
2007-03-17 13:07:20
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answered by Jo M 2
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The offense is not the dog's, but the people charging Upwards of $2000 for a mutt. A mutt is a mutt, cute or not and mixing two breeds, calling is something cute doesn't alter the fact it is a mutt.
Charging outrageous sums of money for one is greed. And it is really only backyard breeders and puppymills creating them for profit. Real breeders who care would not charge that sort of outrageous money for a puppy.
2007-03-17 13:13:08
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answered by renodogmom 5
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Well my aunties dog had puppies and year down the track her dog developed cancer in her breasts and had to be put down. Look I think it would be fun to breed dogs, but I would never breed my female dog, I love her to much and if anything happened to her like that of my aunties dog I would never forgive myself. Just be happy with your lovely pug and don’t breed her unless your prepared for the unthinkable. Good luck!
2007-03-17 12:45:29
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answered by Anonymous
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I quite have in no way for my area asked a DD breeder those questions, yet I quite have asked DD proprietors those questions. a chum of mine owns a bichpoo. I asked him (confident, he's a him, isn't it impressive?), "Why did you pay $seven-hundred on your mutt?" He replied, "first of all, she's no longer a mutt. She's purebred bichpoo with papers. 2d of all, i'm undecided why I paid $seven-hundred. yet does it remember if she's lovable?" He then proceeded to coo in the domestic dog's face mutually as rocking her to and fro like a toddler. i think of the DD breeders could spend an afternoon at a kill guard, gazing canines after canines enter the euthanasia room to be positioned down. Then, perhaps, in basic terms perhaps, they might reassess their purpose in breeding "cavapoos" and "labradoodles". ETA: LOL, "jug". it quite is humiliating to assert. think of if somebody asks you what breed your canines is. "hi, I quite have a purebred jug. and not the ceramic sort." ETA 2: Cocker spaniel and maltese... hmm.. OH MY GOODNESS. i'm getting IT NOW. Uhhmmm *clears throat* okayy.....
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Got off phone with arranging for backup preggo dog stitter/possible midwife (with plans to call a back-up back-up midwife) complete with plans for were the c-section money would come from if needed -- in an easy whelping breed. And you're bent outta shape for recommending same precautions with a half bred of a hard whelping breed! sheeezee
2007-03-17 13:10:46
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answered by ragapple 7
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I honestly have never heard of puggles before, so I went and did a little peeking about the interent and OMG!! They are so cute!!! Absolutely adorable. :) There are a lot of dogs, especially the smaller breeds that have problems with pregnancy. I guess the choice would be yours and your dog's. I would chat with a vet or 2 or 3 before you make your decision.
2007-03-17 12:54:30
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answered by llamasr4me 1
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