Who wants to have a border errected on the south and north?

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I'm personally sick of having to translate spanish signs for my family and hearing about all the negatives coming with illegal aliens and no politicians doing anything. I want Minuteman chapters established in every state (www.minutemanhq.com) and i want to be able to do something about getting ramos and campeon pardoned and the border secured. I'm sick of hearing about "poor families" who broke the law by coming here and about the negative effects of the raids by ICE... i love the ICE raids and there needs to be more of them.. put up a fence like they have around Buckingham Palace (full security) and increase the border patrol and release the agents. Send the illegals back to their hometown and demand that our government and businesses stop aiding and abetting illegals (since it is against THE LAW TO AID AND ABBET YET OUR GOVERNMENT DOES IT).. i'm not a racist, i'm dating a native american and my dads from England, my two best friends are black and mexican.i'm FED UP! anyone else?

Thanks to Lakota because as red power was wrong, there have been walls that have worked. I'm not saying there are not native mexicans... but they are mexicans, not americans. And this isnt about race at all, it's about the blatent violation of laws. The reason the border is an "arbitrary line" in the sand is because no one has the gumption to put up a fence. Wait until they're in your backyard (as 47000 Americans have been murdered at the hands of illegals since 9/11). I am most certainly not a racist, simply an informed American fed up with law breakers. I know the facts and have studied them well. I know my personal views and i know that i'm not a racist and that this has nothing to do with race. I want to look at the issues, not at skin color. I hope redpower looks up the fences that have worked and realizes that to secure the homeland we must first establish a homeland, and the only way to do that obviously is with fences. Have a good one and god bless

Oh yea, and as far as not hurting our country.. go to numbersusa.com and take a look at those statistics.. or even www.grassfire.org, because illegals make up 2% of the workforce but use 29% of social security. also 95% of warrents in LA are for illegals and 75% of LA's most wanted list are illegals. They draw billions out of the country , and when actual figures are computed, even for illegals that pay taxes (in which they break the law if they have a SSN number to do it with), they create a negative deficit because of the resources they use that they are not entitled to. we house 25% of mexico in america, and you say that's not a problem? you need to educate yourself before you accuse others of being ignorant, because i know the numbers.. do you?

EDIT: these are not traffic violations that are being cited... they are violent felonies, check your facts. and 25 americans are killed a day at the hands of illegals (13 with violent murders ie: machette's, guns, knives, etc. and 12 by vehicle homicide) plus 8 american children are molested every day by illegals. also to redpower, the sources you cited were all pro immigration sources, they are inflated statistics and are incorrect. If anyone would like to know more about the deaths of americans due to illegals or the violent endings that they met, go to http://www.ojjpac.org/memorial.asp... thanks and God Bless

Answer 1

I am a Native woman. If you knew the history of American you would know that most Mexican people and many Canadian people are Natives too. Just because the government drew arbitrary lines in the sand doesn't make them any less Native. They have more of a right to this land than most people.

You obviously need to get educated as well. Immigrants, even illegal ones, do not hurt you or our country. Look into it and do some research before you start posting lies and unwarranted rants all over the net.

Also there are a lot of countries that have tried walls before and they didn't work! Take a hint.

You are asking for more oppression.

Just because you have friends of color does not mean you are not a racist.

Put more time into become educated and making the world a BETTER place.

EDIT: I have my websites too, check them out.
And I do have my facts straight, just get educated on this subject and you will see.
http://www.arthurhu.com/INDEX/immig.htm
http://www.uic.edu/cuppa/uicued/npublications/recent/undocimmigrants.htm
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/16/business/yourmoney/16view.html?ex=1302840000&en=2314f86f5f3affb4&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/07/15/MNGE3DOH3L1.DTL
http://www.uwex.edu/ces/latino/general/documents/FACTSONIMMIGRANTWORKERS.pdf

Read Info from:
(Cato Institute and the National Immigration Forum)
http://www.cato.org/pubs/policy_report/pr-imsum.html

(Center for Immigration Studies)
http://www.cis.org/articles/2001/crime/toc.html

And from help with another YA user consider this fact:
Immigrants Are Critical to the Current and Future Growth of the U.S. Economy
• The number of native-born workers age 35-44 will be smaller in the next 30 years than it is today. More than 60 million current employees will likely retire during this period.(7)
• The National Academy of Sciences and National Research Council concluded that, in 1997, the U.S. reaped a $50 billion surplus from taxes paid by immigrants to all levels of government.(8)
• Without the contribution of immigrant labor, the output of goods and services in the U.S. would be at least $1 trillion smaller than it is today(9) and the civilian labor force would have only grown 5 percent (versus 11.5 percent) between 1990 to 2001.(10)
• The total net benefit to the Social Security system if immigration levels remain constant will be nearly $500 billion for the 1998-2022 period and nearly $2 trillion through 2072.(11)

Answer 2

Fences do not work, walls do not work as you can watch the TV and they show you them digging under them, climbing over them, and going around them also for 40 years the Berlin wall did not work either.
We need a Constitutional amendment stating that Employers get punished for hiring, One illegal would get you fines that out weigh the benefits, the employer must pay the taxes, income, SS, Medical, schools, etc that were not paid, they also would serve one year in jail mandatory, if you have more than one, the fines go up plus all the other things paid for one, and jail time goes up to more years, and companies with presidents and CEOs, then the Presidents and CEOs go to jail as well as fines for company and Presidents and CEOs.
Do not think Presidents or CEOs will want to go to jail, so they will issue polices that will not allow illegals to be hired.
When no jobs are to be had here why would illegals come here, and then when they can get no free stuff, welfare, medical, schools, citizenship then they would go home.
Time for We the People demand that congress do this amendment.
www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
www.house.gov/writerep/
here both sides of congress, write your congressmen and demand this happen now, not years.

Answer 3

I agree !!!! Imigration is something that can be done through the legal means. We do need a fence and posted armed guards. If you go to some countries around the world you would be shot crossing their border without a visa. We should not condone breaking the law and making up excuses how life is hard for them. Should it be ok for them to steal also. Like how they come and use stolen social security numbers to get jobs. Use American for credit. Let them steal again using our hospitals and getting free medical care. Knopwing their credit can not be destroyee by a hospital bill. They should be prosecuted for crossing the border illegally. If they want them to be here let it be in prison. After 20 years send them back. It is time to get serious about our borders. Shut the door!!!

Answer 4

To say claim to be educated, but you relied on sites that inflated statistics. Say 95% of warrants are of illegals, but they did not tell these warrants are from 1965 to now that are still on file. That these warrants some of the people died or back in their country. Warrants most of these are for Traffic Violations. A warrant it not necessary a crime it could be violation. About Social Security someone is giving you wrong information. First of all to collect Social Security your Employer and reciepent must contribution for least 5 years, unless you are self-employed or surviving dependent of contributor of SS to be eligible., To start collecting any benefits .you are interview and have to proper IDS and have filed paperwork. Then is it review for eligible and payments

Answer 5

I am a Native Woman too, and I totally agree with you. I live on the border, and have to deal with the invasion personally. There should be a wall, a fence, or something erected to protect Americans from the invaders. The above person does not speak for all Native Americans, and the majority of natives who answer in this section are anti-illegal, and live in the present--not the past.

Answer 6

I am sick of illegal aliens too, of ALL illegal aliens. If they don't want go through the correct channels to prove that they are worthwhile people to become Americans, kick their butts out! But the illegal aliens aren't the only abusers from Mexico! I see it every freakin' day on my way to work. I drive by three of my local public schools, and see all the Mexican license plates on cars, vans, and SUV's dropping off loads of Mexican kids to attend the schools that MY taxes are paying for! And do any of the American officials try to stop the illegal invasion of our schools? No! They send the teachers to school to learn Spanish so they can teach bilingually! Why is our government pandering to the Hispanics? No other races receive that kind of consideration!!! My daughter-in-law's mother speaks no English, but she got her visa, and her visitors green card, and she rides her bicycle every night to adult school to learn English. And she is taking her citizenship classes in English because she can't take the Spanish classes because she doesn't speak Spanish! But is there a class in her language? No! If her people received the same kind of pampering as the Mexicans, she would have her own translater! The Mexicans say that we are racists, and they decry our efforts to protect our southern borders, but how do they protect their own southern borders against the hated Salvadorians and other people coming up from Central and South America? With their military! And they shoot, too! Not just to stop, but to kill! What all these activists should be doing is trying to fix the problems in Mexico and further south that are forcing people to come north to live in peace, safety, good pay, and healthy conditions, with decent schools and clean parks. How come the Mexicans are living in a third-world-type atmosphere? Are the government and the aristocracy in Mexico so corrupt that they don't care that their country can be compared to countries in Africa ruled by tribal mentality?

Answer 7

This one is extremely elementary a individual with a nil.5 a concepts ought to determine it out. very virtually all the illegals bypass the southern border getting into the US. in fact, the southern border is the place terrorist might bypass the border. Mr. Bush on the different hand might fairly enable illegals to bypass the border despite if it skill terrorists might get in. You plug the huge hollow first then circulate directly to different holes. it extremely is termed fee-effectual attitude.

Answer 8

An electric shock fence, razor wire, armed guards every 500 ft. with the right to shot to kill, I'm a beaner and I'm tired of these illegal beaners. I'm not racist either my parents are born in Mexico and Latin America but they are US citizens and have taken the oath. These sorry roaches can't seem to want to do the same they just want to crap all over the US.

Answer 9

I agree with you...110%! We need to protect these United States first and foremost. You made some very strong arguments of why we need to.

Answer 10

Hell yeah we NEED a fence, Immediately.