Is Apartheid really dead?

Question

"......Nor did the Palestinians err when they compared (George Bush's) statement to the Balfour Declaration (the British government's first world war promise to establish a "national home for the Jewish people" in Palestine) - even if they perhaps failed to grasp that the statement is liable to have implications yet more grave than the 1917 pledge, and will compel a substantive strategic change in their struggle.
And Sharon - will be surprised to discover that in Washington he was pushed into embracing an accelerated process of founding the state of Israel as a binational state based on apartheid. ...
"The day will come when believers in this illusion will realise that "separation" is a means to oppress and dominate... "
· Meron Benvenisti, Israeli writer, political scientist and former deputy mayor of Jerusalem.

So the questions is; Is Apartheid really dead?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/comment/0,10551,1203181,00.html

For those of you unaware or too lazy to read the original article (link below):
The concept of apartheid is not owned by South Africa. So-called NECESSITY and SECURITY have been used by tyrannical regimes throughout history to attempt (and fail) to excuse the abuse of human rights and the erosion of their own morality. Rights are always in competition, but basic human rights were acknowledged (not granted) by great men and women who realised that some rights are inalienable, have a higher moral ground and have to take precedence over others. In the 20th century all rights were made less important by states than the right of a state to protect itself and destroy percieved threats to its security. Many evils are now 'legitimised', including kidnap, torture, imprisonment without trial, occupation, colonisation and ethnic cleansing. The latest weapon is affected stupidity to all inconvenient facts. Such as refusal of 3.7million Palestinians' right to return to home.

I would be frightened by the ignorance shown by most answerers, to the facts and to history, and more so by their blinkered acceptance of popular mythology, were I not prepared for it. This is after all Yahoo Answers, so to expect an answer not drowned in media hype from the TV generation was a bit foolish of me. As a final comment, I am old enough and lived as an adult through the South African Apartheid years. Apartheid in my opinion and those of the learned author of the above article is alive and well. When you displace a people, form their land into a state and refuse them the right of return you are asking to live apart, in apartheid. When you build a wall between you & them, your wish to live separately is made even more clear. All that is then required is to find or create a security issue with which to justify the trampling of human rights. 'War is peace' in George Orwells words or more up to date commentary on this board would be 'Ow My Balls' go see it, you'll laugh, I cried

Answer 1

Zionism call for racial segregation in the holly land by all means. The concept of a Jewish state is segregationist concept itself.

Answer 2

I suppose the muslim treatment of christians and other religious minorities in places like Pakistan, Iran, Saudi and Sudan could be compared with the former apartheid regimes, other than that I don't see it anymore.

EDIT: The author of the article you've cited may be too young to remember what apartheid was (you too for that matter), but since arabs are allowed to be in the knesset/marry israelis/attend cinemas/schools/restaurants with israelis, the apartheid label can't be applied to Israel. On the other hand in islamic countries where the testimony of a christian = partial testimony of a muslim etc., there are similarities. I'd be hesitant to apply the term to muslims though, it's obviously an attempt to try and move an agenda forward on the backs of the evils suffered by the black south africans in the apartheid days.

Answer 3

One thing that really irritates me is the fact that some people seem to think that only the Afrikaans people are racist. Catch a wake-up , since when is there only Afrikaans people living in SA. It is the English, the coloureds, the blacks all of us are the same, the majority of people enjoyed Apartheid to the full, most people had servants and treated them like dirt. Me being Afrikaans and proud of it was brought up to respect all colours and i thank my parents for that. Most black people that i know in SA know's who and what i am , a kind and generous person who has never taken advantage of the underprivileged. It is still going on all over the world, if you are poor, underprivileged .

Answer 4

Yes, Apartheid is dead. I completely disagree with the Apartheid methaphor conjured up. Apartheid was an ideology that preached segregation for purely racist reasons. Israel is adopting segregation (of Palestinians- but not Israeli Arabs, curiously) for the sake of preventing the Palestinians from dispatching wave after wave of suicide bombers into its cities to kill civilians, not out of some intentionally racist ideology. Big difference. Given the NECESSITY of Israel's segregation (unless you can come up with a reason for why the State should put it's peoples' lives at risk by not adopting such a policy), I find it inconceivable for someone to both MORALLY AND PRAGMATICALLY justify why Israel should not have such a policy. And in the chance that anyone can justify this, then I challenge them to propose a reasonable and implementable alternative.

Answer 5

as long as Israel occupies Palestine, oppresses the Palestinians, brutally murders milions on a similar time as living much extra homeless and orphaned then no, apartheid isn't ineffective there's a Holocaust occurring in Palestine in view that 1948 and it won't end until Israel is long gone.

Answer 6

Apartheid is and has always been practised by muslims. The religion preaches intolerance of any non-muslims who they call the "kafur" which is uncannilly similar to "kaffir" , the derogatory slang used for a black person during the apartheid years. Hiding behind religion to commit racist hate crimes and they can't even show their faces, spineless and inhuman. What are they all going to do when the oil runs out? Probably move to the uk and go on benefits I suppose!

Answer 7

Apartheid is not dead it's just called something else or it manifest itself in a deferent form or shape.

Can one totally eliminate apartheid? I don’t think so, in order for someone to feel big or reach, someone else will have to be small or poor.

Answer 8

no its a flipin book that you already know the answer to. as you seem to know more about it than the most. and why is it in Israel try the south african page

Answer 9

Apartheid was peculiar to South Africa. What they have now is not any better, all things taken into account.

This has no application to the Middle East.

Answer 10

No...Apartheid is dead in South Africa,but unfortunately alive and well in Israel...http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6390755.stm