Do you think its irrational for Atheist to not believe in god. And that everything got here on its own?

Question

I'm not trying to offend or anything. but i was having a discussing the other day with someone. and they said its very irrational of atheist to think everything here got here without a higher power. and it made me think. everything has a creator and its no way this universe just poof appeared. there had to be a creator(ie god).

please share your thoughts on this

first off.for people saying believing in santa is irrational. yes it is.but im not christian.so i dont believe in santa

Answer 1

The best way to explain it is like this:
To believe in the "Big Bang" theory, that rocks collided in the universe and created life, is like saying that you put dynamite in the forest and blew it up and the trees fell back down in the form of a log cabin. Pretty ridiculous.

Answer 2

The problem is that our God concept came from ancient people who were very ignorant. Biblical people had an illiteracy rate of 99%. What was a higher power to them? They believed that only birds and insects could fly, so what would they have called a person in a vehicle that could fly? A higher power. How do believers explain that for decades priests were molesting children and God never showed up to intervene? The non-believers say because there is no man living in a cloud and the believers say, "Let's change the subject". The problem is with our God concept. Mankind has made obsolete all of the beliefs of ancient biblical people but religion says that we must keep this one (they make lots of money from it). Ask the religious people how come God didn't know that this planet is billions of years old (proven) and it was inhabited by dinosaurs instead of what the Bible says? Ask the believers if God loves us so much why doesn't he come down like he used to do in the Bible and name the true religion. It would put an end to religion violence if we are all God's true religion , selected by God and not a religion. Something's wrong with our God concept. This one has killed over 100 million people in the name of God.

Answer 3

"its no way this universe just poof appeared. there had to be a creator(ie god)."

This is a very slippery statement to make. Especially when you have to look at the physics of singularities (i.e. the big bang) in terms of quantum mechanics, where things just 'poof appear' all the time (for example in virtual pair Hawking radiation from black holes).

It could be the cause of higher dimenisonal p-brane collisions or spacetime is a closed manifold with no beginning or end (Hawking's theory, much like the surface of a sphere).

Additionally, there is a big difference between something creating the universe, and that thing then forgiving sins, answering prayers, caring about what name he's called and torturing beings for eternity.

Answer 4

It is exactly as irrational as believers' belief that god got here on its own.

The rest of creationism is far more irrational than the naturalist explanation, and is usually supported by outright lying:
Bukowski's "dynamite in the forest" analogy of course has nothing whatsoever to do with anyone's theory of how the universe came to be - it's simply ignorant and dishonest creationist propaganda. One has to wonder what kind of a "theory" creationism is, that it can only be supported by lying.

Supertop's notion that a living cell is too complex to not have been intentionally designed is of course exactly backwards: it is far too complex to have been the product of design. It's the ultimate arrogance to simply assume in the face of ALL of the evidence that only intelligence can do complex things. That's simply and obviously false - just open your eyes - and it is only mankind's extreme arrogance that keeps so many of us from seeing it.

Answer 5

I think it is extremely irrational for grown-ups to believe in invisible entities that live in the sky. There is no evidence for such a being, any more than there is for Santa Claus. In fact, God and Santa have a lot in common:

1.) Both are omniscient--they know everything about you, including when you're sleeping and when you're awake, and when you've been bad or good.

2.) Both keep a record of who is good and who is bad.

3.) Both will reward you for being good, and punish you for being bad. The only difference is the severity of punishment--Santa just leaves coal in your stocking, whereas God throws you into hell for everlasting torture.

4.) Both are said to be really, really good (in spite of the torture thing I just mentioned.)

5.) Both are said to live "up" somewhere--God, in the sky; Santa, at the North Pole.

6.) Both are said to love children most of all.

7.) Both of them hear you when you talk to them. You talk to God by praying and to Santa by writing him letters.

8.) Both will give you what you ask for if you are really good.

9.) Both can do miracles--God does all kinds of impossible things, and Santa does the impossible by delivering toys to all the children of the world (or at least, the rich white ones) in one night.

10.) God has angels as his helpers; Santa has elves.

Would you take somebody seriously if they said that Santa created the whole universe in six days? Neither would I, and I don't take theists seriously when they substitute "God" for "Santa."

Answer 6

I think its irrational for people to believe in god. True everything has a creator and mine was my parents through sex. Everything before that had no meaning to me until my parents wanted me to learn the things they were taught to be true. I was born free then imprisoned by a belief system. Now we seek answers to who and why are we here, it's because our parents had sex. The rest was created because it was and we will never know the answer that all of us will believe. Today matters yesterday is gone and tomorrow has yet to come. Do today what you need to do for you are not sure you will be here tomorrow.

Answer 7

Most atheists probably do think it's totally illogical to believe in a God, and it's very difficult to convince them otherwise if you can't show them a verifiable miracle. Some do eventually believe in a Creator if they can realize a living cell is too complex to have originated by accident.


"the current theory of the creation of the universe can be explained in current science"

The current theory? Actually there is more than one current theory and none of them are totally logical. If any one offered a satisfactory explanation, wouldn't logical scientists all acknowledge it? The fact is science cannot explain the origin of the universe or of life. Darwin did not attempt to explain the origin of life in his book; it was very inappropriately named.

Om, "could be the cause"? Right; they don't really know.

Answer 8

I too can be called an athiest because of my lack of belief in God. Watever the Bible may say or any other religious book says i personally dont have any proof that a higher power exists. I mean..to me God hasn't proven that he exist's. Because if he does exist why isnt he doin anythin about wats happenin to the world?? People gettin killed everyday, world wars, millions of innocent people being killed and he does nuthin!!?? And i dont want people tellin me stupid things like, thats their fate, thats how God decided they would die and all that crap. Even if this world and the universe were created by a higher power, that higher power doesnt exist anymore. I have no idea where its gone but to me there is no God in today's world until proven otherwise. People can and will say lotta things that opposes wat i just said but there is absolutely no proof to watever they say that justifies God's existence in todays world. No book, whether religious or not can prove that things like God, hell, heaven, afterlife exist.
P.S. The idea of there being a hell and heaven is absolutely ridiculous. Nuthin happens after we die, we r nuthin more than living machines.

Answer 9

I think it's perfectly rational for an atheist to not believe in God. I think it's rational for a Christain to believe in God. I'd think it irrational for an atheist to believe in God and a Christian not to believe in God.

I also think it's rational to explore the concepts of creation, god(s), religion, and meaning. Consider all aspects and develop your own understanding. That seems pretty rational to me.

I think it most irrational to claim to know what is the absolute truth in this matter.

Answer 10

It's more irrational to believe that a very humanlike deity (jealous, spiteful, arrogant, conceited) molded man out of mud and woman from a rib.

Something always existed, that much is true. But the bible doesn't have the answers as to what that something was.

Answer 11

They have a free will. They just do not understand God because they do not feel the presence of Lord. If one spends a lot of time seeking Him instead of mocking Him, one has a better change of getting to know God. And then there are many people who walk their lives not thinking about God. Atheists at least have made a decision. And we need to accept it.