yea he did it every thai knows it but none are allowed to talk about it, anywyas why do you think he is so worshiped?
2007-03-09 21:52:39 · 20 answers · asked by kim chi jigae 2 in Travel ➔ Asia Pacific ➔ Thailand
Let me tell you a true story. I've dated a girl for two years in college. Her mother also went to the same college as we did but in Law, one of the very first Thai female who graduated from that law school. Her father (my then girlfriend's grandfather) was charged (along with two other men) on the case of murdered King Rama the 8th. His name was Chaleaw Prathumros. He held then a rang of Phraya, I think it is equivalent to lordship of England, only it is not heredity.
No lawyer would take the case to defend Chaleaw, so my friend's mother took on the case as the only lawyer. It was her first and only case she took after graduation. She lost. Guess what, her father was executed on a death sentence.
The case was unclear, and to the best of my knowledge, no one really knows what had happened.
There were rumor that point the blame to many people, but three persons were executed by death sentence, two other along with my friend's grand father.
Now, I think there are bad things in all family, a skeleton in the closet if you like. And, that's not only the Thai royal family.
Bad things did happened in the history. King Taksin (the only King of Thonburi capital prior to Bangkok era) was also executed by a really bad way fit only for King those days; smashed with a wooden log from Chan three (a really sweet smell wood).
Still, I love this King.
2007-03-10 01:33:25 · answer #1 · answered by Titan 7 · 4⤊ 2⤋
Interesting! Ask your granny which king in particular. I would expect King Rama IV or V. Until the present king (who has only one wife) it was customary for Thai kings to have many wives. King Rama V had 77 wives. One might wonder where he found the strength to rule the country, after a hard night's work... In the old days the proverb went as follows: "When you throw a stone in a random direction in Bangkok, it is most likely you will hit a prince, a monk or a dog." In other words: Thailand, Siam in those days, had a lot of princes. Unlike the west, nobility gets less every generation. In the west, the son of a duke becomes a duke, and so do his direct descendants ad infenitum. Not so in Thailand. The son of a king is a prince. The son of a prince becomes the grandson of the king (one step lower). His son becomes the great-grandson of the king (again a step lower). and so on. After 5 generations one is a commoner. Several ex-royal or princely families keep the tradition alive with 'na' in their family name. 'Na' can be roughly translated as 'von' in German or 'van' in Dutch. Somchai Na Chiang Mai is a commoner, but descending from the royal Chiang Mai family. There are many more. And if you'd be interested in obtaining such a name: The Patpong family got it already. ;-) You might try for Na Jomtien. The king can elevate somebody with a royal title. I am not familiar with the male titles he can award, but for women one might become a Khunying or a Thanpuying. The latter being the higher honour. You can roughly translate that as 'dame' and 'lady'.
2016-03-19 03:57:21 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
Read the link which not only gives much more plausable explainations but also shows why what you are saying is extremely unlikely.
The assasination of King Rama 8 was both distressing for his family and the political consequences of finding and punishing the perpetrators would have been terrible if the person responsible were a foreign national.
The Royal family made a painful decision to forego punishing those responsible for the sake of the country. I can only respect their decision in the absence of hard facts which must have been in their possession.
I have lived in Thailand for 12 years, know many Thai's and have heard many stories about this mystery but never have I heard that all Thai's know that the present King ever did anything bad. From what I observe it is just not in his nature to lust after power that much. If it were, he would have abused the power which he has long ago.
Thai law is strict about vilifying the king but this only works because he is so loved and respected by his people. If they did not, no law on the face of the earth would protect him from the results of what you accuse him of.
2007-03-11 19:55:28 · answer #3 · answered by John B 4 · 2⤊ 0⤋
It was terrible and unfair to the king to be slandered by the ones who really didn't know the facts. If you study well the truth without biases by the formal verdict of the case in details with reasonable witnesses , you will understand clearly why the three suspects were sentenced. The verdict didn't indicate they were the murderers but through the witnesses and many evidences ,especially by their own words/ their own talking to many people ,showed that they knew the plan of the assassination because of the political reasons. All of the suspected persons were the followers of the high ranked political boss who had much authority. They were assigned to work close to the king as the guards. They were replaced the king's honest guard who was poisoned not very long before the king's death. That guard warned him before dying to travel back and stay abroad as soon as possible because he was in danger. The motive of assassination was because the king spoke among many politicians he would like his brother (King Bhumibol) to be the King (under constitution) and he would like to be the PM candidate. The wicked politicians hated to see his desire became true because the king was very popular among people. Those politicians tried to protect the suspects in many ways. They had much authority and tried to prove this case was an accident and finally slandered the king's brother as the killer. Actually, 4 people saw the King walked to his room before all heard of the gun and ran after other people to the king's room when the 2 guards went to tell his mother. It was worst when those politicians could escape to live abroad and made up the bad story on the King Bhumibol. No one believe those murderers. The king Bhumibol was a very gentlemen, knowledgeable, sensible. and kind.His integrity, dedication and kindness to all people, especially the trouble, won people's heart. He was not the king in the fairytale but the down to earth king who have been working so hard for all of his life for people. I am the one who had ever seen by my own eyes and ears that he worked really hard to conduct the research of crops and soil for example to help farmers and many other projects. No doubt why millions of people love and respect him. Why did some people blame him or make a bad gossip against him? Envy? Crazy for democracy? Stop talking bad about him if you have never know him. You will be very sorry if you know about what he did for people.
2016-11-15 06:59:23 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
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yea he did it every thai knows it but none are allowed to talk about it, anywyas why do you think he is so worshiped?
2015-08-19 05:14:38 · answer #5 · answered by Silvain 1 · 1⤊ 1⤋
You don't know what you are talking about. Study the literature on this topic and you will be less ignorant. Begin with The Revolutionary King by William Stevenson, ISBN 1-84119-451-4 and you will discover firstly that the king did 100% not cause the death of his brother and secondly you might get some idea why the Thai people have so much respect for the King.
Ignorant people make me sick. That you feel the urge to air your ignorance in public with a question phrased in a way that shows you've made up your mind (incorrectly as it happens) on a topic without proper research makes it even worse.
"the every thai knows it" part of your question is ridiculous. No Thai person I have ever met (in fact no-one I have ever met), and I've lived here a while, thinks that the king was responsible for the death of his brother. Your suggestion and statement about what Thai people think is perverse.
It is a very sad thing for the Thai people that the eighth king died in the way he did. That is why people do not talk about it much. Not because its banned (its not); its just in extremely bad taste. Why do you make a question to remind people of a very sad thing?
[Added later: In relation to IceCube's comments about the people blamed and executed for the death of Rama VIII, I believe that the general view is that they were used as scapegoats and were not actually responsible. So your story correlates with that.
In relation to what you say about the death in King Taksin the Great - well he asked for it didn't he? If a king acts in a cruel and dictatorial way he breaks his obligation to the people and can't expect to stay king. This is one of the safeguards built into the constitutional model of monarchy which is frequently over-looked by those more familiar to the purely democratic model of government. That the present king patently does respect this obligation and obviously is acting in the interests of Thailand in everything he does is, I believe, one of the reasons that he is so popular. ]
2007-03-09 23:33:52 · answer #6 · answered by marmalade 3 · 5⤊ 4⤋
Thai King Killed His Brother
2016-10-15 05:32:37 · answer #7 · answered by ? 4 · 1⤊ 2⤋
I am not Thai. But, it is my understanding of history that King Rama VIII was killed by a group seeking to overthrow the monarchy, which would be a strange thing for the present King to do. I have asked my Thai friends, and not one "knows" that the King was responsible. In fact, they feel he could not have been involved in any way.
Do you have any facts beyond those of the trial? If so, you need to present them - if necessary, go to a UK newspaper which will publish just about any rumor.
2007-03-11 20:19:33 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 1⤋
The asker and some who responded to his question have demonstrated their IQ, education, background and how they're raised.. probably in the slum, I believe.
You better go back and carefully study history, documents, evidences then use your own common sense together with what you have ever learned since you left your mother's womb, to clarify and find reasons to explain it.
We, Thai never think he murdered his brother but he fell victim of the politicians and the dumb guys like you.
Tell me, whoelse in the world, if not a monk or priest, can practice and live their lives consistently and morally like the present king who also devoted his 60 years for the well being of Thai people.
Sorry that no one in your country, since the founding of your nation, any nations I bet, ever acheived up to 5 % of his good deed.
No intention to offend anyone and any countries in specific but only want to address it to those who questioned stupid question and those who're trying to distort the history for their benefits.
2007-03-11 01:37:04 · answer #9 · answered by tooon68 3 · 4⤊ 1⤋
Bhumibol Adulyadej the Great Rama IX is THE most revered person in this Kingdom. For you to even infer such a heinous act would be grounds for you to be tried and sentenced to a very long term in a Thai prison. I would suggest that you read more on the subject and be less accusatory in your comments.
2007-03-11 20:13:31 · answer #10 · answered by Jim G 4 · 6⤊ 0⤋