If I believed in somebody named, Melvin, the Terminator, because I had a book that claimed Melvin was real and that I had to believe in him, and that Melvin was from a square planet 100 miles from Earth, called, "Kolob,"and I felt Melvin's presence in my life.....
IF I say that I believe this, that's cool. But what if someone came up and showed me that, in fact, there are no planets in existence that are: 1. Named Kolob 2. Square 3. 100 miles from Earth.
Should I:
a. Believe in Melvin nomatter what...?
b. Use reason and stop believing in Melvin?
Most Christians, even though Christianity has been disproven with 1,832 irrefutable facts, still claim that they will believe it - nomatter what!
Should people who believe like this, be sterilized, or straight-jacketed or institutionalized?
Wouldn't that protect sane society?
2007-03-09 20:38:45 · 27 answers · asked by John Galt 2 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
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http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/nogod.html
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2007-03-09 20:43:02 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋
If you don't force me to worship Melvin, I'd honor your belief in Him.
Belief does not rely on reason. Now a square planet wouldn't be viable and we already know that it is not 100 miles from Earth, at least not in this dimension.
Did you personally catalog 1,832 "irrefutable"
facts? Would you be willing to share with me just one of those?
Well, my son, the Romans didn't stop at sterilization, straight jackets or institutionalizing the first Christians. They tortured and killed them.
I am here. Come and get me.
When I see Melvin I'll tell him" Hi" for you. Deal?
Christian conduct in terms of its morality is a force that nurtures sanity in an increasingly insane world.
2007-03-10 04:55:20 · answer #2 · answered by Charlie Kicksass 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
because there are far more things that are unknown than there are things that are known or can be explained. Scientifically, we only use 10% of our brains. So we don't know everything. Christianity has not been disproven. Its funny that, if there were a life guide left for us on earth that GUARANTEED eternal happiness and success and health if we only follwed the steps that were in there, people would not believe it and count it as crazy and out of date. They would question why they had to follow those rules and still fight to do what they wanted to do--even if their choices led to misery and disease. At least they lived their life the way that they wanted--trying to figure out the secret to life. People are like that. The answer could be right in front of them, but because thet don't like the answer they **** on it and ask why and if that answer is the right one. Its a never ending cycle if a person questions the answers. I think that the solution is to stop asking questions that we don't really want to know the answers to.
2007-03-10 06:10:38 · answer #3 · answered by T!ff 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Where is there a sane society on this earth? Is all the abuse and hatred considered sane? When will we learn to respect one another no matter what an individual believes?
God is greater than our human mind and He can't be proven in a test tube or with experiments. Yet He can be experienced by those who are willing to get to know Him.
2007-03-10 04:53:48 · answer #4 · answered by pinkrose 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋
...Let's see - you want to sterilize, or straight-jacket, or institutionalize Christians; how do we know you can be trusted?
...First, you could take care of the Christians...surely if you did that, you could be trusted with the rest of population who did not agree with you (not!).
...If you did lock up Christians, to protect your "sane society" - one that is full of murder, perversion, stealing, vice, and corruption...tell me how you would accomplish this legally?
...That would be more evidence of a perverted society.
...A sane society does not incarcerate people just because they believe differently than you. I thought we were trying to work beyond our differences in this country (the US), and that we are free to believe as we choose.
...If you actually believe this stuff you are pedalling, I think one of these other countries would more suit your taste. How about choosing one of these: China, Cuba, North Korea, Iran, and Venezuela? Then you could enjoy all the "benefits" of a totalitarian society, i.e., you wouldn't have to do so much thinking - it would all be done for you; you wouldn't have any private property to have to own or fool with; and if you are a worker bee, and most are, you could spend the rest of your life supporting the elites in power, keeping them from getting real jobs.
2007-03-10 05:10:31 · answer #5 · answered by carson123 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Believing in a religious belief is a little more then "someone" writing a book and trying to get a person to believe it.
And just where and what are these 1832 facts you claim to know about? You went to public school, didn't you? And your third grade general science teacher told you that, didn't she?
2007-03-10 06:14:51 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Did you know that a fact is not always the truth.There was a boy that got hit by a car on his bike.I went to the Hospital with His mom and they had him bandaged like a mommy.The nurse said the fact is he will never be the same again and he will be in the hospital for months.We prayed for Jesus to heal Him and the next day they released him and he was cutting grass that very next day.
2007-03-10 04:55:10 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
woah settle down!
what kind of facts are we talking about here?
that the red sea couldnt have been parted and such?
I think most people I know view those stories not as literal occurences but take the story as a whole just as a fable with a lesson to teach...of course, some would say otherwise.
now, I think sane society should step back , have a little decency and realize no matter how dangerous theese people may seem , you cannot infringe upon their rights until they threaten or violate the rights of others.
its all nice and dandy to wish theese people away , but you simply cannot start sterilizing people and locking them away, you probably know that.
now, you are probably thinking, but what! theese people (religious extremists, not christians in general) step on or attempt to step on my rights everyday, by trying to pass laws to govern me based on their religion, or talking bad to me because I dont believe as they do. the fact is, not all christians do that, and when it comes to those that do, while you may want to lock them up you should think about what is right and respect their life choices while making it clear that it is innapropriate to impose their beliefs on others or treat anyone with less respect because of conflicting beliefs.
back on subject...not all christians fit your category and no, you cant sterilize or lock them up in straightjackets that is a violation of their natural rights to life and liberty, and in the case you are talking about (simply believing though facts seem against them) is in no way violating another persons rights,
so you would have no grounds what so ever for limiting or taking away their rights.
2007-03-10 05:09:14 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
It's interesting you have found 1832 irrefutable facts to disprove Christianity while I've read two books filled with facts proving Christianity. Poor science is only looking for the facts you want to find. I've looked at both sides and the arguements for are much more concrete than the arguments against.
2007-03-10 04:50:06 · answer #9 · answered by kaehya2003 4 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Well, this earth exists... no scientist has disproved that.
Jesus lived, no scientist has disproved that.
Jesus is alive, no scientist has disproved that.
Kindness, gentleness, mercy, love, are good things no scientist has disproved that.
Jesus of Nazareth was crucified, buried and rose on the third day no scientist has disproved that.
I'll stop there.
Should society opt for your suggestions, it would merely be fulfilling prophecy in the Bible.
How would scientists disprove that?
Whoops, maybe I should qualify it as reputable scientist.
2007-03-10 05:20:47 · answer #10 · answered by thankyou "iana" 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋