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You say your God knows all, so before creating Adam and Eve he knew they would sin, and in turn on Judgement Day Billions of people would be sent to hell and would get tortured for the rest of eternity.(many peaceful people are not Christians eg. 1 Billion Hindus, 600 million + Buddhists etc.)
So is your God such a entity who knows that at some point Of time would create a creation Whose many(billions) of Sons he knows in advance will suffer eternal pain.
Would he create a creation for whom he knows
one day HIS OWN SON JESUS WILL SUFFER very much.
No human father would create a ROBOT if he knew in advance that the ROBOT would torture his son.(In context to the fact GOD creating humans while knowing humans would torture his son JESUS one day)
Why Not Create A Creation Which Was As Perfect As Him (GOD)
Atleast I know that no KIND HUMAN BEING if granted the ability to create would create a creation whom he knows he would have to torture in the future.(In context to the fact GOD creating Human race while knowing in advance that many humans would be tortured in Hell).
Tell me would you give birth to your child if you know in advance that when he grows up he will be a mass murder and a danger to society and that one day you would have to kill him?
Kind Parents punish their children again and again when they make mistakes and do not allow them Free will to commit sin for his entire Life and in the end throw them into a pit of fire.
2007-03-09 14:47:59 · 22 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Ah, the paradox of creation and salvation, this should be a drinking game. Good luck, they never answer it. They just say...satan created evil, and Lucifer chose to rebel...
2007-03-09 14:57:35 · answer #1 · answered by Huggles-the-wise 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Im not sure God had the expectation that man would sin. That is a common assumption made that i personally dont buy into 100%.
Just because people are peaceful, does not mean they are innocent of sin.
God gave the gift of freewill, nobody has to go to hell if they dont want to.
Jesus suffering proves how much he cares about us. Many of Jesus' parables cover that aspect of him.
Or maybe why not have created us at all? The fact is he did and nothing we can say is going to change that. And actually, he is going to perfect us in ways when we get to Heaven, but only those with faith. Unforgiven evil cannot enter Heaven.
Lets say you had a problem child that wanted to stab and kill your other kids, steal your property, and mock you? Would you reward that kid or kill him? Im sorry but if one of my own kids turned on me and endangered my TRUE kids, he would not live past that day. you also make the common mistake of making all humanity "Gods children." Jesus said only the people that do his will and accept him are Gods children. All else is mere fallen creation that is destined to perish. no god is not unjust in punishing sin.
If I knew in advance that I would have 10 kids, 5 would be murderers and 5 would love me like a treasured possession and it meant I had to kill the 5 bad ones, I would have the kids and kill those who tried to kill my other kids and turn on me.
You complain about having freewill and judge God for punishing evil? Does the sinner take no responsibility for his sin? Hell is a place where nobody has to go if they have faith and are willing to follow God. And no, we are not all Gods children. Gods TRUE children love him, serve him, and will be rewarded. The others that never loved him and rejected him will have no part in his blessings, only his wrath. That is justice.
2007-03-09 15:13:51 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
God created us to share his Love willingly. He did give us free will to love Him back, or not. He will not force Himself upon any of us. We don't know how many are going to perish. God is still working in the hearts and minds of everyone. God doesn't want any of us to perish, but that we all would come to repentence. That is why He came Himself, in the form of Jesus Christ. To save that which was lost. That being all of us. He didn't come to condemn, but to save. As humans, we do not have the ability to see the future. God provided a way out of sin so that anyone following His Plan of Salvation will have everlasting life. Study these scriptures and find out. St. John 3:5, Acts 2:38, 2:4, 10:45-46, 19:6, St. Mark 16:16-17. This is our way out from perishing!
2007-03-09 15:05:41 · answer #3 · answered by michael m 5 · 2⤊ 1⤋
You talk as if Jesus had no choice. Jesus was there when God created, and they are alike in opinion. Really, it was more like God created a creation that He knew that He would have to suffer for.
In a perfect world, we would be automated robots, not beings with free choice. Humans chose wrong, and that is why we suffer. God did know that this was going to happen, of course, but He has given everyone a way out of punishment that we are deserving of, which is grace and forgiveness beyond anything that we could do.
2007-03-09 14:55:12 · answer #4 · answered by DawnL 3 · 1⤊ 2⤋
you try to explain God by human terms and understanding and it just doesn't work. God is not human. His ways are higher than ours and His thoughts higher than our thoughts. God gave man 2 great gifts: Life and free will. He knew man would chose sin that is why the Word of God says that Jesus was the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. He loved you so much and wanted fellowship with you so much that He "risked" everything on you. Some accept, some reject, but the invitation for life is free to all. What you do with that invitation is your choice. God is above human "standards" because He is GOD. He sees, knows, understands, comprehends and thinks and has "ways" that are as far above us and we are above the tiny amoeba.
2007-03-09 14:56:27 · answer #5 · answered by wd 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋
God had a plan and he wrote it all down in a book. This book is not the bible we use to guide us (christains). This book is the book of life sealed with seven seals mentioned in Revelations. During the carrying out of this plan one of Gods Angels rebelled against him we know him as Lucifer aka satin or the devil who has tried to destroy Gods creation and plan. So God sent his Son to save his plan and when Jesus died on the cross he said its finished and succeeded in making a way to save God's plan. All you have to do is to believe in his son to be saved from all the punishment that you say is unjust.
2007-03-09 15:18:07 · answer #6 · answered by Tommiecat 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
So, you are a philosopher.
Your problem is that your mind is 'finite'. Agree? How do you expect to comprehend the mind of an 'infinite' God? Hmmm.
You would judge God by my ability to answer you. How human.
You are trying to argue with the wrong person! Argue with God.
2007-03-09 14:58:27 · answer #7 · answered by John S 3 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Yours is no question, but the opportunity to speak your mind to a forum having little interest in reading such a windy narrative.
I predict your so-called question will be removed by the yahoos at Yahoo Q&A.
2007-03-09 14:55:57 · answer #8 · answered by Guitarpicker 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Your question is - which there are several contrary to what others say (notice the question marks) - too intelligent for them to grasp. It's either "where is your question?" or they focus on one semantic (God made humans not robots) and glaze over the rest of your question.
It's impossible for them to give an answer equal to your question.
2007-03-09 15:08:29 · answer #9 · answered by Joa5 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋
You do not give your children Free Will, they have it.
They will exercise it when they grow up. They have a choice, as you and I do.
God didn't make robots, he made Humans, with Spirits and yes Free Will. What kind Love can you feel from a Robot?
IF God had giving us "mind" built to automaticly love him, then indeed, we would love him, but would it be real?
Do you want to KNOW which son Truely Loves you?
So does God, he wants to know. YOUR RIGHT, KIND PARENTS punish their children to save their soul. So does God!
Proverbs 3:11-12
11 My son, despise not the chastening of the LORD; neither be weary of his correction: 12 For whom the LORD loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.
Psalms 89:30-44
30 If his children forsake my law, and walk not in my judgments; 31 If they break my statutes, and keep not my commandments; 32 Then will I visit their transgression with the rod, and their iniquity with stripes. 33 Nevertheless my lovingkindness will I not utterly take from him, nor suffer my faithfulness to fail.
2 Samuel 7:14
14 I will be his father, and he shall be my son. If he commit iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the children of men:
2007-03-09 14:54:56 · answer #10 · answered by mornings_sunshine 2 · 2⤊ 4⤋