is zionism just?

Question

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTd08SPfckg
these people know who were really behind the 9/11 attacks.
they know why we went in WW2
and the real purpose of the holocaust.

Answer 1

im palestinian and just wish the war would never have happened i have many jewish friends but the zionists stole the land from my people and make it look like they are the victims on television but the palestinians and iraqis said by the former U.S. Attorney are probably the most terrorized people on earth watch this vid
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pDbiY58lUXU
Peace be with you

Answer 2

Obviously, you know nothing the topic.

Zionism is a movement for Jews to return to their home land. It is part of the British foreign policy in the administering Palestine. This was at the turn of 19th century.

We know who is behind the 9/11 attacks. It is not the US government as so many claim. It was plan and carried out by members of racial Islamic group al-Qaeda. (If you have any doubts read the writings of its leader.)

WWII began at the unjust treaty which requires Germany to pay for the entire cost of WWI. This basically destroy the German economy and brought Hitler to power. The Nazis economy required expansion eventually leading the invasion of Poland. The Jews had little to do with the Nazis foreign policy, but Nazi wanted a pure Germany without Jews, Gays, etc. This is where the camps came in.

As the Nazi expansion continued, more Jews came under under the Nazis control. More were placed in camps where they were used a slave labor. Finally, the plan Hitler explain in his 1922 book was put into practice.

The real purpose of the Holocaust was to remove by execution all those that did not fit into Nazi pure Germany.

Is Zionism just? Is Islamic expansion just? By 70 AD, Rome has destroyed the Jewish state including the Jewish temple. Palestine a Roman province was apart of the Roman Empire, the Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantine), Ottoman Turks, the British, and now Israel.

The surviving Holocaust victims help populate the UN approved Jewish state.

One last comment, the UN resolution has two parts: Jewish state and Arab state. Why don't you see what happened to the Arab state?

Answer 3

Actually, you have it all wrong.

Zionism is a cause to return Jews to their homeland. There has always been a Jewish presence in Israel, no matter how far back you go, unlike the Palestinian presence. Jews in Palestine were called Palestinians as well before the Balfour Declaration. Do you know how the Jews earned the Balfour Declaration from Britain? They fought in WWII on the front lines with the Allied troops. Jews from Palestine. Where did the Arabs from Palestine fight? On the side of the Nazis. In fact, some Arab leaders were trying to become Hitler's officers in order to bring the war and Holocaust to Palestine. And this was BEFORE there wasn't even any talk about a Jewish state, so the Arabs excuse for hating Jews is a non issue as of this time period. The Israelis were given that land legally and the Palestinian claims about how persecuted they are is a lie. They say they have no homes--Israel built multi million dollar housing complexes both in Israel and the territories and set them aside for Palestinian use--the Palestinians bombed most of them and left one to use as sniper vantage to kill Israelis. Palestinians say there is an apartheid state--Palestinians have as much rights as any Israeli, many serve in the Knesset. If it was an apartheid state, would that be allowed to happen? Go to Haifa, talk to some of the residents there. Arabs and Jews live there peacefully together.

Secondly, those "Jews" you've linked everyone to are mad that Israel is not a totalitarian Jewish state, and also that people are trying to restore Israel before Moshiach comes. They are the same people who throw rocks at anyone who is not one of them walking through their neighborhood. If a girl walks through their streets and her skirt in not precisely down to her ankles, they will throw rocks at her and scream at her. The men do not work, and expect the women to support the 10-15 children by themselves. Women are not allowed to learn Torah and boys are not allowed to learn secular subjects like math, science, etc. The internet is an evil thing as well as anything else they don't believe in. They are extremists and one step away from being terrorists. If that's the kind of people you listen to...well, to each their own. Formulate your own ideas. But sticking a NK rabbi up on a video will do more to deplete your point, not accentuate it.

Answer 4

Zionism is an international political movement that supports a homeland for the Jewish people in the Land of Israel.[1] Formally organized in the late 19th century, the movement was successful in establishing the State of Israel in 1948, as the world's first and only modern Jewish State. It continues primarily as support for the state and government of Israel and its continuing status as a homeland for the Jewish people.[2] Described as a "diaspora nationalism",[3] its proponents regard it as a national liberation movement whose aim is the self-determination of the Jewish people.[4]

While Zionism is based in part upon religious tradition linking the Jewish people to the Land of Israel, where the concept of Jewish nationhood is thought to have first evolved somewhere between 1200 BCE and the late Second Temple era,[5][6] the modern movement was mainly secular, beginning largely as a response to rampant antisemitism.[7] At first one of several Jewish political movements offering alternative responses to the position of Jews in Europe, Zionism gradually gained more support, and the Holocaust accelerated Jewish immigration to the Land of Israel. On May 14, 1948, the Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel stated: "In the year 5657 (1897), at the summons of the spiritual father of the Jewish State, Theodore Herzl, the First Zionist Congress convened and proclaimed the right of the Jewish people to national rebirth in its own country."

Answer 5

is it just that palestinians claim to the world that israel starves them, despite that when israel built several brand new greenhouses for them to make use of they immediately tore them down? why should israel build them more?

is it just that the palestinians claim israel leaves them in poverty even though practically every penny they get in aid gets spent on guns and rockets?

is it just that palestinians saunter into israeli cafes and blow themselves and everybody around them up, and when israel is forced to build a huge, ugly fence around itself to keep the palestinian suicide bombers out then the palestinians accuse israel of apartheid?

is it just that human rights organizations examine israeli textbooks and find that the israeli government goes out of its way to portray muslims and palestinians kindly, but when they examine palestinian textbooks all the find are references to jews being pigs and apes and commands to destroy all of israel?

is it just that palestinians blame the jews for their refugee problems and the loss of their homes, but will never acknowledge that the refugee problem would never even have existed if the arabs hadn't made war against the jews? is it just that hundreds of thousands of jews lost their homes to the arab governments as well? where is the outcry over them??

Answer 6

all i know is that in ww2 nobody touched the big jews in berlin while their neighborhood was the only one not bombard at all...

Answer 7

NO, NO and NO.

Answer 8

no really who was reaLLY involved.....zion is a word used by many religions christian, mormon muslims, even bob marley sang about it
and non of their teachings is about mass murder raping or torturing people....those are what we call the off shoot cults that domake religion look bad.
for example
MICAH
CHAPTER 4
In the last days, the temple shall be built, Israel shall gather to it, the Millennial era will commence, and the Lord will reign in Zion.
1 But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the amountain of the house of the LORD shall be bestablished in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.
2 And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the amountain of the LORD, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will bwalk in his paths: for the claw shall go forth of dZion, and the word of the LORD from eJerusalem.
3 ¶ And he shall judge among many people, and rebuke strong nations afar off; and they shall beat their aswords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn bwar any more.
4 But they shall sit every man under his avine and under his fig tree; and none shall make them afraid: for the mouth of the LORD of hosts hath spoken it.
5 For all people will walk every one in the aname of his god, and we will walk in the bname of the LORD our God for ever and ever.
6 In that day, saith the LORD, will I assemble her that ahalteth, and I will bgather her that is driven out, and her that I have afflicted;
7 And I will make her that halted a remnant, and her that was cast far off a strong nation: and the LORD shall areign over them in mount bZion from henceforth, even for ever.
8 ¶ And thou, O tower of the flock, the strong hold of the daughter of Zion, unto thee shall it come, even the first dominion; the kingdom shall come to the daughter of Jerusalem.
9 Now why dost thou cry out aloud? is there no king in thee? is thy counsellor perished? for pangs have taken thee as a woman in travail.
10 Be in pain, and labour to bring forth, O daughter of Zion, like a woman in atravail: for now shalt thou go forth out of the city, and thou shalt dwell in the field, and thou shalt go even to bBabylon; there shalt thou be delivered; there the LORD shall redeem thee from the hand of thine cenemies.
11 ¶ Now also many nations are agathered against thee, that say, Let her be defiled, and let our eye look upon Zion.
12 But they know not the thoughts of the LORD, neither understand they his counsel: for he shall gather them as the sheaves into the floor.
13 Arise and thresh, O daughter of Zion: for I will make thine horn iron, and I will make thy hoofs brass: and thou shalt abeat in pieces many people: and I will bconsecrate their gain unto the LORD, and their substance unto the Lord of the whole earth.
Two LDS missionaries were visiting homebound patients when they ran out
of gas. As luck would have it, a gas station was just a block away.

The two walked to the station to borrow a gas can and buy some gas. The
attendant said that the only gas can he owned had been lent out, but
they could wait until it was returned.

Since young men were on the way to see a patient, they decided not to
wait and walked back to the car. They looked for something in the car
that could be filled with gas and spotted the bedpan they were taking to
the patient.

Always resourceful, they carried the bedpan to the station, filled it
with gas, and carried the full bedpan back to the car.

While the missionaries were pouring the gas into the tank, two men
watched from across the street. One of the them turned to the other and
said, "If it starts, I'm turning Mormon


lamentations 2 :1-22 states clearly about zion throughout the chapter

Misery and sorrow and desolation prevail in Jerusalem.
1 How hath the Lord covered the daughter of Zion with a cloud in his anger, and cast down from heaven unto the earth the beauty of Israel, and remembered not his afootstool in the day of his anger!
2 The Lord hath swallowed up all the habitations of Jacob, and hath not apitied: he hath thrown down in his wrath the strong holds of the daughter of Judah; he hath brought them down to the ground: he hath polluted the kingdom and the princes thereof.
3 He hath cut off in his fierce anger all the horn of Israel: he hath adrawn back his right hand from before the enemy, and he bburned against Jacob like a flaming fire, which devoureth round about.
4 He hath bent his bow like an aenemy: he stood with his right hand as an adversary, and slew all that were pleasant to the eye in the tabernacle of the daughter of Zion: he poured out his fury like fire.
5 The Lord was as an enemy: he hath swallowed up Israel, he hath swallowed up all her palaces: he hath destroyed his strong holds, and hath increased in the daughter of Judah amourning and lamentation.
6 And he hath violently taken away his tabernacle, as if it were of a garden: he hath destroyed his places of the assembly: the LORD hath caused the solemn feasts and asabbaths to be forgotten in Zion, and hath despised in the indignation of his anger the king and the priest.
7 The Lord hath cast off his altar, he hath abhorred his sanctuary, he hath given up into the hand of the enemy the awalls of her palaces; they have made a noise in the house of the LORD, as in the day of a solemn feast.
8 The LORD hath purposed to destroy the wall of the daughter of Zion: he hath stretched out a line, he hath not withdrawn his hand from destroying: therefore he made the rampart and the wall to alament; they languished together.
9 Her agates are sunk into the ground; he hath destroyed and broken her bars: her king and her princes are bamong the Gentiles: the law is no more; her cprophets also find no dvision from the LORD.
10 The elders of the daughter of Zion sit upon the aground, and keep bsilence: they have cast up dust upon their heads; they have girded themselves with csackcloth: the virgins of Jerusalem hang down their heads to the ground.
11 Mine eyes do fail with atears, my bbowels are troubled, my liver is poured upon the earth, for the cdestruction of the daughter of my people; because the children and the sucklings swoon in the streets of the city.
12 They say to their mothers, Where is corn and wine? when they swooned as the wounded in the streets of the city, when their soul was poured out into their mothers’ bosom.
13 What thing shall I take to witness for thee? what thing shall I liken to thee, O daughter of Jerusalem? what shall I equal to thee, that I may comfort thee, O avirgin daughter of Zion? for thy breach is great like the sea: who can heal thee?
14 Thy aprophets have seen bvain and foolish things for thee: and they have not discovered thine iniquity, to turn away thy captivity; but have seen for thee false burdens and causes of banishment.
15 All that apass by bclap their hands at thee; they hiss and wag their head at the daughter of Jerusalem, saying, Is this the city that men call The cperfection of dbeauty, The ejoy of the whole earth?
16 All thine aenemies have opened their mouth against thee: they bhiss and gnash the teeth: they say, We have swallowed her up: certainly this is the day that we looked for; we have found, we have seen it.
17 The LORD hath done that which he had adevised; he hath fulfilled his word that he had commanded in the days of old: he hath thrown down, and hath not pitied: and he hath caused thine enemy to rejoice over thee, he hath set up the horn of thine adversaries.
18 Their heart cried unto the Lord, O wall of the daughter of Zion, let tears run down like a river day and night: give thyself no rest; let not the apple of thine eye cease.
19 Arise, cry out in the night: in the beginning of the watches pour out thine heart like water before the face of the Lord: lift up thy hands toward him for the life of thy young children, that faint for hunger in the top of every street.
20 ¶ Behold, O LORD, and consider to whom thou hast done this. Shall the women aeat their fruit, and children of a span long? shall the priest and the prophet be slain in the sanctuary of the Lord?
21 The young and the old lie on the ground in the streets: my virgins and my young men are fallen by the sword; thou hast aslain them in the day of thine anger; thou hast killed, and not pitied.
22 Thou hast called as in a solemn day my terrors round about, so that in the day of the LORD’s anger none escaped nor remained: those that I have swaddled and brought up hath mine enemy consumed