illegal immigration???

Question

how do you define illegal immigration? Isn;t it when all these thousands of people just flock into a country taking and using up it's resources, while the REAL owners of the country actually oppose that?
If so, why isn't any of you handing this country back to the native americans??
Is this a double standard used to measure yourself vs the one used to measure mexicans?????????

Gottlos, tru tru, but please remind me, was the acre of land and the mule given to them??? NO! so go back to where you belong.

wingshooter, if you measure with that stick, when the mexicans invade the US, they will measure you with the same one... or worse

DAR, yes, by "we" i guess you mean tax payers, which includes me, and I say "yes" let there be no borders and allow these freakin mexicans to come at will.

HAYLEYLOV, you are so wrong... please go back and read the news again. They are protesting with "BUSH GO HOME" get it right.

dave,
in that case if stealing is justified a country is justified, but not jumping a fence, just think of it as mexicans are stealing or "buying" the rights to be in this country by being underpaid workers.

Answer 1

They only sold us the island of Manhattan, loser. Kind of overstepped our bounds, didn't we?

I love people who don't recognize that America is a country of opportunity for EVERYONE, as long as he or she is willing to work hard. America is not for the whites, or the blacks, or the little brown funny looking mongoloid people. It's for everyone. I swear, some of these white racists are closet communists!

Answer 2

Right now the REAL owners of this country are the Americans. You can't go back hundreds or thousands of years and try to declare a previous owner the real owner. That would be like if someone owned a house and they sold it or lost it to foreclosure. You buy this house and live it for a long time and leave it to your kids and so on. Then 200 years later the descendants of the original homeowners show up at your house and claim it to be theirs and declare that they are moving "back" in to "their" house. They also claim you need to go back to your old house, which is of course, currently occupied by someone else.
This "send everyone back but the Indians" argument was fallacious when the first person made it so why do others keep repeating it over and over again? America is a country with legally recognized borders and laws.
If someone comes to America and doesn't keep their legal status current, or they cross the border without getting legal status to begin with, they are illegal aliens. This isn't debateable. It has nothing to do with legal immigrants or the Indians. It has nothing to do with race.
You can't name a single living person who can remember the U.S. border being in a different place and disputes the placement of the current border. All arguments about where the border should be (i.e. on the other side of that job or other resource) are ridiculous and has nothing to do with whether or not someone should be legal or illegal. And neither do the Indians. Either you're an American citizen, here legally, or you're not.

Answer 3

Illegal immigration is where a Soverign country sets up laws and rules for people not born there to enter the country legally, and people circumvent those laws and rules and enter the country without following those laws and rules.

This does not apply the the native Americans for two reasons. Sovereignty did not exist at the time, and although many of them were unfair, we purchased the lands legally via treaty. They also did not enter the country illegally, they were already here.

Bottom line is it has nothing to do with stealing or buying land, and everything to do with entering a Soverign country through proper channels.

You asked a question I answered. No one ever said we stole the land, some think that, but a deal is a deal. At the time it was a perfectly legal transaction. Jumping a fence to enter a Soverign country is a federal crime, and IS illegal. Accept the definition or remove the post if your going to argue with each answer. Jimminey....

Answer 4

Do the laws of the land only apply to U.S. citizens? Is there any country in the western hemisphere where a mass of people can migrate just because they want to and lay claim to rights like they are citizens even when they're uninvited?

The debate runs hot and heavy about illegal immigrants, what should be done and how might it be done but the bottom line is this; if the laws are to have meaning, if we're not going to be allowed to pick and choose which ones we will or will not obey then the illegals have to be held accountable and pay the consequences too.

Forget the cheap labor crap because our prisons are chock full of over fed and under utilyzed cheap labor that can do what the illegal do... Plus their pay, that of our domestic criminals rather then the invading criminals, can be attached to repay society for their evil deeds.

Answer 5

I define illegal immigration as the entry into a country in violation of its laws.

The Indian tribe lost it in a series of wars. If you are advocating/saying that others [be they Russian, Irish or Mexican] have that same right, I counter that if the illegal immigration is endorsed [by the supplying country] it is an act of war on that countries behalf. As such, this country has the right to openly engage in warfare to protect itself [much like the Indian tribes you so blithely refer to].

However, I think, this time around the [invaders] [unlike the Europeans] won't prevail.

Answer 6

Illegals aren't immigrants. That's the first flaw with your question. Since there is no such thing as an illegal immigrant, there is nothing to define. Illegal aliens are people in the U.S. who don't have permission to live and work in the U.S. by the ICE. You are referring to illegal aliens, and I just gave you the definition.

The second flaw with your argument, is that you as well as some of the other answerers are presumptiously speaking on behalf of us, American Indians. I don't live in the past, my concerns are about the present and future, and the impact of the second invasion by mestizos overrunning and ruining my environment in the year 2007. American Indians are split on the issue, but there are plenty of us who are against the illegal alien invasion and only American Indians have the right to use the "Native American card".

DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS!

Answer 7

They stole Mexican territory from the Aztecs who were there first and today they enforce relentlessly their immigration laws on their south border. So if it's good enough for them, it's good enough for us. Almost every country started with outsiders coming in and conquering the previous natives' territory, using something that happened centuries ago as an excuse to allow illegals today is pretty down right pathetic.

Answer 8

Whatever you are saying about the Native Americans isn't true. They had no idea in their culture of ownership. When we asked to buy the land from them they laughed and said no ones owns the land. Is that taking advantage of them. It sure is, but what's been done can't be undone. Today, however, the time period we are living in we can stop the illegals, and have every right to.

Answer 9

illegal immigration is someone that has broken the law and is in this country illegally.

Why can't people just obey the law and come to this country legally. If they break the law to come to this country, what stops them from breaking other laws.

These people think they are above the law, because they are here illegally and are using up our resources without having to pay any taxes.

They go to the emergency rooms and get free health care and don't have to pay the high premiums for insurance.

The people that are here legally are the one's that end up paying for it.

Answer 10

criminal immigration is the technique the place people attempting to pass into the U. S. shop on with immigration rules and shop on with for visas, and so on. to pass into the country. unlawful immigration happens whilst people sneak in like thieves interior the night, as in chinese language welded into the steel holds of field ships that run aground on long island and Mexicans sneaking around the southern border without regard to the regulation. And stable grief, birds do no longer immigrate, they migrate, that's traveling with the seasons. Mexicans could for this reason be extra surprising called unlawful migrants.

Answer 11

If it's the way you describe it , then we should be at war with Mexico right now and we'll whip their a$$ , like we did the last time
Oh , by the way didn't the Spanish take Mexico from the Indians that lived there too, so your the same as the US . When are you going to go back to Spain ? Huh