These people are not worthy of your grace Kermit. They need a Holy Smiting
2007-03-10 15:20:45
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answered by Emo Smurf 2
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I read and thought it was so disappointing if that was what people think a convincing case for the religion is. I really think it would only convince those who didn't think about it too deeply or those just learning to confirm their predisposition to believe. At one point in the book the contradiction in the Bible between the two stories for Judah's death is mention the author just says how they were shown this is not a contradiction by the answer both stories were true it was just a combination of the two. Okay, I suppose you can make up what every rational you want to believe as you wish. Not very convincing. Sorry that's just my opinion of it.
2007-03-09 03:26:39
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answered by Zen Pirate 6
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Have any of you people even bothered to read "The Bible Against Itself"?
It's by Randel Helms, a wonderful author and might I add a terrific person.
Here is a description from Skeptic Magazine:
" Before the Bible was the Bible it was a lot of little books written by many writers with many different viewpoints.
If you open up the Bible and read it straight through, you will notice two things that should not be true if it had been written as a coherent whole and with a single purpose. First, the Bible is quite repetitious; second, the Bible frequently seems to contradict itself. Readers have often ignored these contradictions, and apologists have long tried to reconcile them. Randel Helms chooses a third course — to understand the contradictions by looking at the cultural and historical factors that produced them. All books are written for or against some point of view, and the books of the Bible are no different. Bible book authors were often motivated to write because they wanted to challenge or correct those who had written before them. As Helms explains, “The Bible is a war-zone, and its authors are the combatants. Paul said of Peter, ‘I opposed him to his face, because he was clearly in the wrong (Gal. 2:11).’” Helms notes that Jeremiah condemned the entire religious establishment of his time — the very same people that other Bible authors held in highest esteem: “prophets and priests are frauds, every one of them” (Jer. 8:10). Luke felt the need to write another gospel even though “many writers have undertaken to draw up an account of the events” (Luke 1:1). Luke obviously felt that Mark’s gospel was filled with errors and edited it freely. Not even Mark’s account of the words of the dying Christ was left unaltered.
The Bible Against Itself reveals:
* how the author of Chronicles I & II white-washed earlier historical accounts of Saul, David, and Solomon
* how the Book of Ruth was written to challenge the growing racism of religious reformers of its time
* how every apocalyptic book in the Bible struggled to reinterpret some earlier failed Bible prophecy
* the war of “Wisdom” between religious teachings, pagan proverbs, and practical advice
* the centuries-long battle in the Bible between prophets and the Law of Moses, and even between prophets and prophecy itself
* how first and second century Christians interpreted the Hebrew Bible in a new way, to change it into a book that had “really” been written about Jesus
* Jesus of Nazareth’s philosophical conflicts with Jesus the son of Sirach
* the battle between James and Paul — and their followers — for control of first century Christianity.
As Helms concludes, “Before the sacred authors were declared sacred, they were fair game for attack or revision. Not without reason did John the Revelator threaten with ‘plagues’ anyone who ‘adds to’ or ‘takes away from the words of ’ his book (Rev. 22:18-19), for such was all too often the fate of the ‘ little books’ that eventually became our Bible.”
Dr. Randel Helms is a Bible scholar and professor of English at Arizona State University in Tempe, AZ. He is the author of Gospel Fictions and Who Wrote the Gospels? "
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2007-03-09 03:38:30
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answer #3
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answered by Weird Darryl 6
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I have the deepest respect for most religions as long as they do not tolerate or promote violence and terrorism.
However I grew up steeped in Christianity and after years of thought and research have concluded that it is consistent, coherent, nor verifiable.
It's amazing how Christians "hold up" the few authors that converted to christianity by trying to undermine it, but fail to see the numbers of people, who after examining the fact, have concluded that there is no evidence.
2007-03-09 03:30:02
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answered by Pirate AM™ 7
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Kermit - F you for the last comment... rude, condescening and unnecessary. That was a CHEAP stab at non-beleivers. Extremely low of you. Do you think your God enjoys your wit and insults to others? Try having some respect for US. I take issue with you asking me to respect your religion when you speak in such a tone.
Ive read that book. Ive also read the Bible (several times) and CS Lewis' "Mere Christianity".
And, you know what I learned from them? That Im not missing anything in my life, other than mental illness. And Im not interested in becoming a victim of your mind virus.
So, do us a favor. Please read "Why people beleive weird things" by Michael Shermer. You might begin to understand your virus.
2007-03-09 03:27:12
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answered by ? 5
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I have very little peacefulness to even finish the book I started 2 mos ago.. NO and yes I do love Easter
2007-03-09 03:23:02
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answered by Anonymous
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I read it...great book. i recommend following it up with Case for the Creator, and Case for Faith...all good books. What got me started on his writings was that he started out as an Atheist, hell bent on undermining the Christian faith. Funny how that turns out when people actually take the time to research what they've been told, as to just accepting it.
2007-03-09 03:24:38
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answered by Underdog 2
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I haven't read it, but I might give it a read. Thanks for the suggestion. I'm always looking for interesting reading material, and I'm not afraid of opinions that differ from my own. Last book I read related to religion was Francis Collins' _The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief_. I didn't agree with all of his conclusions, but it gave me a better understanding of his views.
2007-03-09 03:26:49
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answered by Anonymous
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Here's a link from Christian Book Summaries for:
The Case for Christ
pdf: http://www.christianbooksummaries.com/library/v2/cbs0225.pdf
html:http://www.christianbooksummaries.com/archive.php?v=2&i=25
The Case for a Creator:
pdf: http://www.christianbooksummaries.com/library/v3/cbs0306.pdf
html: http://www.christianbooksummaries.com/archive.php?v=3&i=6
They are excellent compact versions of his books
There are many more here:
http://www.christianbooksummaries.com/past.php
2007-03-09 03:30:29
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answered by Zee 6
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I have a copy, haven't read it, but also like "Stranger on the Road to Emmaus" by (I think) John Cross.
2007-03-09 03:22:19
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answered by GLSigma3 6
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