My girlfriend has signed up for the United States Army National Guard, but she doesn't really want to join anymore. She's trying to figure out how she can get an honorable or general discharge or something, rather than a dishonorable.
If she told them that she's a lesbian, would it be a dishonorable discharge? She doesn't want a dishonorable discharge because that sticks with you forever, and she doesn't want to screw up her future.
So yeah, anyone with information is thanked.
2007-02-24 14:59:36 · 15 answers · asked by JustMeOrIsIt 1 in Politics & Government ➔ Military
you have the clinton era's "don't tell, don't ask" policy...so why risk being discharge in whatever capacity when you are rightfully protected by the latter?
2007-02-24 15:27:04 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
It would Under Other than Honorable. BUT, good luck. The military is wise to this way of thinking and unless there is some sort of real proof she's not going anywhere. AND making a false official statement will just get her in more trouble. An OTH discharge will screw up her future. She will lose her GI Bill benefits plus even if she wanted to go to college and pay for it herself with loans, she is no longer eligible for ANY government backed student loans. This is ALL of them by the way, Stafford Loans and all the ones that go along with them. No way she is going to get ANY job for any company that does ANY kind of business with the government either. This includes petty jobs like McDonald's too. So, to answer your question, she WILL have a very bad time of things if she goes through with it. The probability that this will work at all is very slim. She is going to need to be caught having actual sex with another woman in front of the CO or somebody else that is pretty real. Everyone and their mom has tried the "I'm gay" thing to get out so they are going to want some real proof that she really is. The Guard is not a horrible thing you know. She needs to grow up and face up to the responsibility she signed up for. It sucks, but I think that is your only real choice. Anything else is not worth the pain and in the end she is still not getting out.
2007-02-24 15:46:27 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
It would be an Honorable Discharge. If it is under 11 months if would be a General Discharge. I wrote many of these while I was in the Army. The UCMJ is for all branches.
2007-02-24 18:02:22 · answer #3 · answered by Vince 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Discharges for homosexuality are generally Honorable. Sometimes, based on marginal performance or minor misconduct, they will be General (Under Honorable Conditions). If she has signed up, but not actually served, it would be considered an Entry Level Separation (ELS) which is not characterized. In today's military, it is not a violation of the rules to be gay, only to participate in homosexual activity. The military, under the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" rules, cannot ask her whether she has acted or participated in homosexual activity. If they do, she needs to seek legal counsel. However, the Commanding Officer does not have to find her statement of being gay credible if he believes it is made solely or primarily for the purpose of avoiding service or seeking separation. That does not mean she should bring in photos of her in the act; it means she needs to go to legal.
2007-02-24 15:28:20 · answer #4 · answered by Mangy Coyote 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
She would do best to suck it up and complete her obligation. She will be interviewed closely by very well-trained psychiatrists, and if it's suspected that she's lying, it will go very, very hard on her. Men and women who do admit to being gay and manage to convince the psychiatric team of their sincerity are given a general discharge - under honorable conditions if they've not violated any part of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, but under dishonorable conditions if they've screwed up.
2007-02-24 15:12:06 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
I was pretty sure its a General Discharge. I don't think its dishonorable.
2007-02-24 15:19:37 · answer #6 · answered by avioletsky 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Whats the big deal? It's the Guard, for petes sake. It's not like she's in the Army.So she has to do basic training, a peace of cake. Then she has to hang out around some armory once a week. Once a year she gets to go camping. Quit your crying and tell her to do the best she can. She might get to like it. She might even get a new girl friend. Are is that what your afraid of?
2007-03-04 02:58:18 · answer #7 · answered by c321arty 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I think it would be a general discharge or other than honarable, not sure, but would not be dishonorable.
2007-02-24 15:03:44 · answer #8 · answered by J S 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
dishonorable discharge. if she dont want to stay any more, well too bad she have to, if she signed for it you have no more rights.
2007-02-24 15:08:57 · answer #9 · answered by cb450t 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
it would be a chapeter 15 and that is dishonorable discharge
2007-02-24 15:04:31 · answer #10 · answered by lovely 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋